goku Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 why not believe the Bible?everything it teaches is good, right?it's okay to care one for another, right?what does the Bible say that people are so mad?, scared?, confused about?i mean what's the big deal?do the non-believers know why they don't believe?alot of people here seem to know much about the Bible, but, don't believe in God?what's up with that? answer all or some of the questions, if you like :naughty: thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasmus00 Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 why not believe the Bible?everything it teaches is good, right?it's okay to care one for another, right?what does the Bible say that people are so mad?, scared?, confused about?i mean what's the big deal?do the non-believers know why they don't believe?alot of people here seem to know much about the Bible, but, don't believe in God?what's up with that? answer all or some of the questions, if you like :naughty: thanks Almost the exact set of questions could hold for any holy book. Why not believe the Koran? My reasons for not believing the bible is word for word truth is that when I look with a critical eye, I can't help but view the bible as a work of man, cobbled together over may years. God gave me my brain, eyes, and ears, so I think I owe it to him/her to use them, even when it comes to the bible. (and other religious texts, for that matter). -Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 i believe the Bible is perfect. (KJV)the ink may be of man but the words are of God.Jesus is of man, do you not believe him as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAKER Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Im with you goku. I would say that the vast majority of folks around here are coming from the perspective that over the past hundred years or so, mankind has advanced technologicaly to the point where our understanding of the Earth and the universe has created;- (for them what is seen to be an advancement in human potential; even so far as to believe they are "climbing the evolutionary ladder of success"); but that is seen by others to be nothing more than a self induced grand illusion. The ever increasing mountain of knowledge that mankind is continually accumulating for themselves, is coming in conflict with what has been seen in the past as undeniable fact - especially in regard to "religious" matters; and to be quite frank with you, there are some seriously legitimate questions about some of these age old beliefs. But every question has an answer, whether or not it's the one you/they want to here or not; and whether or not it is discovered in your lifetme. It appears that many "grow weary" of self introspection, and external investigation in matters that ultimately have no Earthly answer anyway; and it is easier to deal with the tangible, mentally fathomable questions of materalism and humanism. Of course there are many other factors at play; but as far as I'm concerned it comes right down to this verse and others like it: "The natural man does not recieve the things of the spirit of God; neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasmus00 Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 i believe the Bible is perfect. (KJV)the ink may be of man but the words are of God. But why would the king james version be perfect? Why not one of the other many translations? If God wanted his words perfect, why would he allow multiple translations? Why wouldn't he make the original perfect, why just one translation? Jesus is of man, do you not believe him as well? I don't believe God would be so closed as to only allow followers of one religion to get to heaven. -Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 that makes me think of ecclesiastes. the preacher says all of man's works are vain.what good has all the technology done for man?sure medical science has helped people, but not all. for every cure there is a new sickness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 But why would the king james version be perfect? Why not one of the other many translations? If God wanted his words perfect, why would he allow multiple translations? Why wouldn't he make the original perfect, why just one translation?i'm not necessarily saying the others are not perfect, just that the KJV is the only one i trust. it worked for my father and his father, and me I don't believe God would be so closed as to only allow followers of one religion to get to heaven. -Willit doesn't matter what religion you follow. all that matters is the blood of Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 why not believe the Koran?everything it teaches is good, right?it's okay to care one for another, right?what does the Koran say that people are so mad?, scared?, confused about?i mean what's the big deal?do the non-believers know why they don't believe?alot of people here seem to know much about the Koran, but, don't believe in Allah?what's up with that? You see, goku, the Bible is not the only sacred text. Tell me, what makes christianity better than muslims, jews, etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 not saying i'm any better.so, do you believe the Koran? the Bible?if not, why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 not saying i'm any better.so, do you believe the Koran? the Bible?if not, why?I don't know what's there to believe other than the New Testament. If you ask me, those Adam and Eve, Noah's ark, etc. stories are just that, stories. None are real. They are not meant to be taken literally About the teachings of any sacred book, I agree with many of them, but disagree with another few... I make my own mind of moral standards and teachings... Why do not I believe in the Old Testament stories? Well, because I do think that scientists are right when they say that the Earth is millions years old and fossils (apparently) show that too. I also believe that there's extraterrestial life out there. Why? Well, because I do think that if god (if there's one) made more creatures on other planets... I mean, why not? god didn't make a so big universe to just make a creation on one planet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 thank you for your input :naughty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAKER Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 ... I mean, why not? god didn't make a so big universe to just make a creation on one planet...You presume to understand God pretty well to say such a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 You presume to understand God pretty well to say such a thing.True, I should have said that I think god created other creatures. If I were to be god I would have made other creatures on other planets. :naughty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAKER Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 If I were to be god I would have made other creatures on other planets. :naughty:But again, you only say that because you really have no idea what God is doing now, or why he has done what He has done thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAHD Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 why not believe the Bible?because it hasn't caught me as the end-all of texts.everything it teaches is good, right?Somehow I don't agree with the moral lesson of Cain & Abel.it's okay to care one for another, right?yes, but heavy-handed vengance isn't quite as universal.what does the Bible say that people are so mad?, scared?, confused about?Kill everyone who beleives in another spiritual system. i mean what's the big deal?Indeed, why do bible-thumpers ask us to review it again and again? Are they hoping we'll see some miraculous new words to make us beleive all the rest is true?do the non-believers know why they don't believe?I would hope so, otherwise they'd be agnostic.alot of people here seem to know much about the Bible, but, don't believe in God?It comes from having it puhed in your face all the time; like a surgon on a battlefeild, repeated exposure to the inner workings tends to breed familliarity. Hindus, Taoists, Sufi, Cristians, Jesuits and all others look pritty much the same once you're under the skin.what's up with that?What's up indeed? can't the people who talk to god keep their conversations private? Chacmool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Somehow I don't agree with the moral lesson of Cain & Abel. what?heavy-handed vengance isn't quite as universal.what?Kill everyone who beleives in another spiritual system.what? Hindus, Taoists, Sufi, Cristians, Jesuits and all others look pritty much the same once you're under the skin.they all are human, but, there should something different about true christians. GAHD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAKER Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 what?what?what? they all are human, but, there should something different about true christians.You would hope so; but even if there's not - "...Let God be true and every man a lier". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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