Dubbelosix Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 Unless we learn how to travel great distances very soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboo Posted February 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 Well, soon is a relative thing. Be more assured we will die from our star around the same time as Andromeda comes crashing into our own galaxy.So you have just changed everything you said from the beginning of this post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 No... I haven't. You asked questions and I am clarifying the best I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboo Posted February 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 No... I haven't. You asked questions and I am clarifying the best I can.Timboo, on 18 Feb 2020 - 10:58 AM, said:So it is possible then in our lifetime this can cause vacuum decay? If the dead galaxy that was found not long ago was caused by a change in the fine structure constant then vacuum decay could be on its way? Maybe, but it would also mean that acceleration of galaxies in distant sources tell us about the expansion in the past, so it may be that we can only trust the local acceleration of galaxies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboo Posted February 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 No... I haven't. You asked questions and I am clarifying the best I can.So it is possible then in our lifetime this can cause vacuum decay? Yes, but the decay would be a quantum leap from one configuration to another. Whether it is reversible is another issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 Timboo, on 18 Feb 2020 - 10:58 AM, said:So it is possible then in our lifetime this can cause vacuum decay? If the dead galaxy that was found not long ago was caused by a change in the fine structure constant then vacuum decay could be on its way?Maybe, but it would also mean that acceleration of galaxies in distant sources tell us about the expansion in the past, so it may be that we can only trust the local acceleration of galaxies.Yes it's possible, but would you like to really see such days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboo Posted February 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Yes it's possible, but would you like to really see such days?In your profession as a scientist what are your real thoughts on vacuum decay, the comments you have made seem to think it is possible in our current state of the universe? Do you think what we see in galaxies further is different than closer one? decay would be a quantum leap from one configuration to another. Whether it is reversible is another issue Edited February 18, 2020 by Timboo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 No I am saying we cannot trust distant light signals to tell us the acceleration of the present day... Why? Simply because distant signals tell us about the past, these are the first principles of relativity wedded into cosmology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboo Posted February 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) No I am saying we cannot trust distant light signals to tell us the acceleration of the present day... Why? Simply because distant signals tell us about the past, these are the first principles of relativity wedded into cosmology.So basically the truth is vacuum decay is highly possible in our lifetime then, I am assuming you are a scientist Edited February 18, 2020 by Timboo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Not in our life times, not unless you plan on coming back lol Edited February 18, 2020 by Dubbelosix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboo Posted February 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Not in our life times, not unless you plan on coming back lolSo you changed again what you said before then? So it is possible then in our lifetime this can cause vacuum decay? Yes, but the decay would be a quantum leap from one configuration to another. Whether it is reversible is another issue  Timboo, on 18 Feb 2020 - 10:58 AM, said:So it is possible then in our lifetime this can cause vacuum decay? If the dead galaxy that was found not long ago was caused by a change in the fine structure constant then vacuum decay could be on its way? Maybe, but it would also mean that acceleration of galaxies in distant sources tell us about the expansion in the past, so it may be that we can only trust the local acceleration of galaxies.Like ThisTimboo's PhotoTimboo So it is possible then in our lifetime this can cause vacuum decay? Yes, but the decay would be a quantum leap from one configuration to another. Whether it is reversible is another issue. Edited February 18, 2020 by Timboo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboo Posted February 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 It’s like your playing games now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) No I am not playing games, you ask questions, I give you the responses I think appropriate. Edited February 18, 2020 by Dubbelosix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 Continuing to ask questions I have already tried to explain from my own understanding, will not get new answers that can be any more inspiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboo Posted February 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) No I am not playing games, you ask questions, I give you the responses I think appropriate.You think appropriate how about giving the truth then How likely is vacuum decay in our lifetime? Are you not a scientist Edited February 18, 2020 by Timboo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timboo Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 You keep avoiding the questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 No it wi not decay in our lifetimes, our lifetimes are too short for something like this on cosmic scales. I am just saying we can never be 100 percent in physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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