Turtle Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Well Mr. Turtle, you will just have to wait like everyone else, to find out if you are right... I might make this a 7 day poll, just so i can work on the actual write-up over the weekend. :) :doh: well, as i said, i already know i'm right. if your "answer" is not hands, it is in error. :hihi: my one article isn't what i thought on reading it all, but here it is anyway. The evolution of manual dexterity : Neurophilosophy this one is closer to what i was after and if your answer is going to be the brain then my retort is that is a no-brainer. :lol: anyway, "honesty" is a communication thingy and communication is a language thingy and, well, the hands are the most honest part of the body says i. :shrug: Linguistics 201: Language and the Brain Language and the brain Many people assume the physical basis of language lies in the lips' date=' the tongue, or the ear. But deaf and mute people can also possess language fully. People who have no capacity to use their vocal cords may still be able to comprehend language and use its written forms. And human sign language, which is based on visible gesture rather than the creation of sound waves, is an infinitely creative system just like spoken forms of language. But the basis of sign language is not in the hand, just as spoken language is not based in the lips or tongue. There are many examples of aphasics who lose both the ability to write as well as to express themselves using sign-language, yet they never lose manual dexterity in other tasks, such as sipping with a straw or tying their shoes. Language is brain stuff--not tongue, lip, ear, or hand stuff. The language organ is the mind. More specifically, the language faculty seems to be located in certain areas of the left hemispheric cortex in most healthy adults. A special branch of linguistics, called neurolinguistics, studies the physical structure of the brain as it relates to language production and comprehension. ...[/quote'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted June 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Mr. Turtle, you will know in due time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Me thinks those that learn to lie with their mouth learn to lie with their face and hands as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Me thinks those that learn to lie with their mouth learn to lie with their face and hands as well... i said as much. however, a person's hands can't lie about some things like age, work history (calloused, smooth, etc. ), nail-biting, etcetera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted June 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Remember that the question is which part of the body is the most honest, i.e. lies the least, not which part of the body tells you more about a person. Just something to think about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 i said as much. however, a person's hands can't lie about some things like age, work history (calloused, smooth, etc. ), nail-biting, etcetera. Those things are not elements of body language. They reveal things about a person but they do not convey what a person is saying or feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Those things are not elements of body language. They reveal things about a person but they do not convey what a person is saying or feeling. no one limited the topic to body language as i recall, nor communication to speech or feeling. Remember that the question is which part of the body is the most honest, i.e. lies the least, not which part of the body tells you more about a person. Just something to think about... yes i understand that. my answer is still the hands. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted June 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 mr turtle, did you read the first post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 mr turtle, did you read the first post? i did. you didn't limit the subject to only body language. i read the fbi guys thingy, and i still say hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 i did. you didn't limit the subject to only body language. The context is communication though and I wouldn't necessarily consider the callouses on someone's hands a communication per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Well unless they suffer a psychological condition in which the callouses talk to them... ooor they are a part of a Family Guy episode where Peter was some celebrity's callous... But callouses can be used to some extent to predict things about a person, though honestly not very precisely, however it will not necessarily be true about them, for example my hands look like worker hands, yet i sit in the office all day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffy Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Well I say it's the penis: I've never known one to lie to me! ;) Not that I always liked what they had to say! :( Its just that all men are sure it never happened to them and all women at one time or other have done it so you do the math. Buffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 The context is communication though and I wouldn't necessarily consider the callouses on someone's hands a communication per se. well, i consider it so. communication is among other things defined as an exchange of information. the whole point of this exercise is to get trustworthy information about people by their body parts and putting restrictions on the means isn't honest. ;) it's all really an exercise in semantics and subjectivism, (what is "honest"? ) & i was just jump-jacking along with the group. :( Q: what were peoples' hands before they were hands?A: front feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamela Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I would have to say the torso. When we are disgusted or afraid, then we recoil from our chest area. When on the defense, we cross our arms in front of it as a means of "hiding". When we are angry, we puff it out.You can lie with a false wave or hug from your arms and hands. Your legs and feet can run in feigned fear. And well, the face can most certainly produce a fake smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 well, i consider it so. communication is among other things defined as an exchange of information. So when I notice a banana is yellow you think the banana is communicating to me that it's yellow? Does everything communicate? Is the observation of anything the result of receiving a communication? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Well I say it's the penis: I've never known one to lie to me!You've never met mine, that lying bastard Swear cant have a conversation straight with that guy, always seems to lie about something. Thank you Buffy and Pam ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 So when I notice a banana is yellow you think the banana is communicating to me that it's yellow? Does everything communicate? Is the observation of anything the result of receiving a communication? it's communicating that it is ripe. if you get information, then the getting is communication by simple definition. communicate - definition of communicate by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.1. a. To convey information about; make known; impartb. To reveal clearly; manifest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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