Space Junk, Satellites, Weird Weather Patterns and Global Warming

[LaurieAG]

Hi Turtle,

 

now rather than the heating effect you question laurie

 

The satellites don't heat up the planet (I never said that) just like the meteorite showers have neglible impact on rising temperatures, at least we should all agree on that one.

 

What I am talking about is how our neo meteors (satellites, 'things in the sky') especially equatorial/geostationary ones can put up a cumulative pressure that prevents temperature flow between the southern and northern hemispheres as shown in the average chart on your earlier research link.

 

Bernoulli's principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

In fluid dynamics, Bernoulli's principle states that for an inviscid flow, an increase in the speed of the fluid occurs simultaneously with a decrease in pressure or a decrease in the fluid's potential energy.[1][2] Bernoulli's principle is named after the Dutch-Swiss mathematician Daniel Bernoulli who published his principle in his book Hydrodynamica in 1738.

 

Bernoulli's principle can be applied to various types of fluid flow, resulting in what is loosely denoted as Bernoulli's equation. In fact, there are different forms of the Bernoulli equation for different types of flow. The simple form of Bernoulli's principle is valid for incompressible flows (e.g. most liquid flows) and also for compressible flows (e.g. gases) moving at low Mach numbers. More advanced forms may in some cases be applied to compressible flows at higher Mach numbers (see the derivations of the Bernoulli equation).

 

Bernoulli's principle can be derived from the principle of conservation of energy. This states that in a steady flow the sum of all forms of mechanical energy in a fluid along a streamline is the same at all points on that streamline. This requires that the sum of kinetic energy and potential energy remain constant. If the fluid is flowing out of a reservoir the sum of all forms of energy is the same on all streamlines because in a reservoir the energy per unit mass (the sum of pressure and gravitational potential ρ g h) is the same everywhere.[4]

 

This also applies to a rogue satellite bouncing many times before it gets either a re-entry angle or burns up while forming a high or low pressure point. And it doesn't even have to touch the surface either, hard disk drive heads work in a vacuum on the same principle.

 

Fluid particles are subject only to pressure and their own weight. If a fluid is flowing horizontally and along a section of a streamline, where the speed increases it can only be because the fluid on that section has moved from a region of higher pressure to a region of lower pressure; and if its speed decreases, it can only be because it has moved from a region of lower pressure to a region of higher pressure. Consequently, within a fluid flowing horizontally, the highest speed occurs where the pressure is lowest, and the lowest speed occurs where the pressure is highest.

[freeztar]

Bernoullli's principle applies to adjacent fluids, no? It can be argued that satellites cause some peculiar dynamics, however small or large, in the exosphere, or even thermosphere, but the mixing of layers below this in order to cause stagnation/excitation in global currents seems a bit of a stretch.

 

Do you have any data which supports such an idea? It's certainly interesting considering butterfly wings and all. ;)

[LaurieAG]

Hi CraigD,

 

Though this gives the clear conclusion that we shouldn’t worry about space junk affecting climate, it’s not to say that we shouldn’t worry about space junk.

 

I hope you read my previous post about the misconception between satellites and space junk causing global warming and them being a contributor to weird weather patterns and El Nino/La Nina that could be a cause for the global temperature imbalance that then causes Global Warming.

 

Other non geostationary satellites, a combination of both polar and non polar, could put up some form of standing pressure wave that causes the quatropoles (spawn points) for Cyclones, Hurricanes and Typhoons in much the same way that the "axis of evil' describes the quatropoles and octopoles found in the CMBR data.

 

Cosmic microwave background radiation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Low multipoles and other anomalies

With the increasingly precise data provided by WMAP, there have been a number of claims that the CMB suffers from anomalies, such as very great-scale anisotropies, anomalous alignments, and non-Gaussian distributions.[66][67][68][69] The most longstanding of these is the low-l multipole controversy. Even in the COBE map, it was observed that the quadrupole (l=2 spherical harmonic) has a low amplitude compared to the predictions of the big bang. Some observers have pointed out that the anisotropies in the WMAP data did not appear to be consistent with the big bang picture. In particular, the quadrupole and octupole (l=3) modes appear to have an unexplained alignment with each other and with the ecliptic plane[70][71][72], an alignment sometimes referred to as the axis of evil.[67] A number of groups have suggested that this could be the signature of new physics at the greatest observable scales. Ultimately, due to the foregrounds and the cosmic variance problem, the greatest modes will never be as well measured as the small angular scale modes. The analyses were performed on two maps that have had the foregrounds removed as best as is possible: the "internal linear combination" map of the WMAP collaboration and a similar map prepared by Max Tegmark and others.[51][73][74] Later analyses have pointed out that these are the modes most susceptible to foreground contamination from synchrotron, dust, and free-free emission, and from experimental uncertainty in the monopole and dipole. A full Bayesian analysis of the WMAP power spectrum demonstrates that the quadrupole prediction of Lambda-CDM cosmology is consistent with the data at the 10% level and that the observed octupole is not remarkable.[75] Carefully accounting for the procedure used to remove the foregrounds from the full sky map further reduces the significance of the alignment by ~5%

 

That probably scales to using a strand of hair and holding it several inches above the water.

[LaurieAG]

Hi Freeztar,

 

Do you have any data which supports such an idea? It's certainly interesting considering butterfly wings and all. ;)

 

Thats why I asked if anybody knew if any research had been done in my first post.

 

BTW, I've been discussing other 'coffee cup' experiments with Turtle.

 

What do you think will happen if you create a vortex (about an inch or so deep) in a hexagonal cup with a teaspoon and then quickly pull the teaspoon out of the cup?

[LaurieAG]

The only references I've found at all are in Weather control - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and they're all Sci-Fi.

 

In popular culture

In popular culture, weather control technology can be found in the science fiction and fantasy genres of speculative fiction. The concept of weather control is often portrayed as a part of terraforming.