freeztar Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I received a pack of these for Christmas and have used them a couple times now. For those unfamiliar with detox foot pads, look here: Detox Foot Pads Detox Foot Pads Now, as a science-minded person, I'm immediately skeptical of the claims. It seems I'm not alone as a quick google search reveals: kinoki foot pads As stated, I've tried these twice now and both times, the pads come off looking black/dark. I've read some people claiming that this is the result of the wood vinegar in the pads discoloring (oxidation? chemical reaction with sweat?). This does not seem probable though as many people report that the pads gradually lighten in color as you continue using them until they come off white (at which point the treatment is supposedly complete). So my question to the scientifically-minded folks of this fine forum is: Do they work?More importantly, how do they work, if they do work? The closest I could find to an explanation is that it works like reflexology (of which I'm already dubious). Here's an ingredient list for the Kinoki foot pads: Bamboo vinegar 1.6gTourmaline 0.2gDetox herbs 1gEmolient base 1.192gLavendar essential oil 0.008g Some of the google links provide more info on what exactly constitutes "detox herbs". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamela Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I have tried them as well.The Kinoki brand touts the pads as removing heavy metals from the body.The pads appear to be the same color every time and no lessening in color with subsequent applications. I imagine that unless you knew exactly how much metal was present in your body prior to the application, and were tested thereafter, would be the only way to conclude the results.I did not show any signs of better health as a result, although many of these herbal remedies, have positive results. Whether that be from the actual healing from the herbs, or a placebo effect, testing the body would be the only verifiable way to prove their effectiveness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeztar Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 As far as the discoloration goes, I thought of a simple experiment I plan to try. I read several accounts of people saying that it is the sweat in your feet that reacts with the chemicals in the pad to cause the discoloration. I plan to set up a control where a pad is left out overnight. For the experiment, another pad will be sprayed with a saline solution (mimicing sweat). This should at least confirm or deny those specific claims. I do agree that testing body chemistry before and after would provide the most satisfying results, but it's beyond my "lab in a basement" capabilities. :)It would be great to see a formal study, but I suspect that most in the medical community regard these pads with enough suspicion to not warrant such an investigation. :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeztar Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 The pads appear to be the same color every time and no lessening in color with subsequent applications. Out of curiosity, how long did you use them for and with what frequency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamela Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 originally posted by FreeztarOut of curiosity, how long did you use them for and with what frequency? I believe it was for 2 weeks. Instead of alternating each foot, I used pads on both feet every other night. I also had to wear socks;), because the tape would inevitably catch on the sheet and pull off. So the normal sweat rate would have increased somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeztar Posted January 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 I also had to wear socks;) One or two? :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 I saw this on Myth Busters a few years ago, it is total bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeztar Posted January 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 I saw this on Myth Busters a few years ago, it is total bullshit. Aha, I love Mythbusters but rarely get the chance to watch it as I don't have cable. Unfortunately I missed this episode and will have to try to find an online version. I had the same suspicions myself, but if my experiment shows that saline does not cause discoloration, then something else is going on. This does not mean that it actually detoxifies, but I would like to get to the bottom of what actually *does* happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeztar Posted January 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 According to this experiment, it looks like there's no need to do mine. SciencePunk Champneys Detox Pad - Dissection Galapagos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galapagos Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 According to this experiment, it looks like there's no need to do mine. SciencePunk Champneys Detox Pad - Dissection Nice find. I had a good laugh at these in the "impulse buy" shelves while standing in line at the local Bed, Bath, and Beyond the other day. If someone has something that does what this nonsense claims, they should definitely be advertising the biological mechanism by which it is claimed to work if they want skeptically minded consumers to make a buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamela Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 originally posted by one of the two snake oil victims listed aboveOne or two? two, and they both matched;)hey freeztar, if nothing else, they did make my feet softer!:evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 On the up side of foot myths, soaking your feet in vodka does indeed cure SFS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamela Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 originally posted by moontanmanOn the up side of foot myths, soaking your feet in vodka does indeed cure SFS!Not familiar with SFS as far as feet go, what is it? Stinky Feet Syndrome???:evil:If so, I suggest soaking feet in ice tea and drinking the Vodka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Not familiar with SFS as far as feet go, what is it? Stinky Feet Syndrome???:evil:If so, I suggest soaking feet in ice tea and drinking the Vodka I can't believe you guessed that, SFS, stinky feet syndrome! yes soaking your feet in vodka safely kills the fungus that causes the extreme foot oder some people have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamela Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Interesting to note, the same bacterium found in stinky feet is also found in stinky cheese:eek_big: I always thought wine and cheese were a perfect mix, but apparently Vodka works as well. Is your source from the old water witching wives, sitting around , eating hoop cheese, swilling rye moonshine and soaking their toes while spinning tales?:evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Interesting to note, the same bacterium found in stinky feet is also found in stinky cheese:eek_big: I always thought wine and cheese were a perfect mix, but apparently Vodka works as well. Is your source from the old water witching wives, sitting around , eating hoop cheese, swilling rye moonshine and soaking their toes while spinning tales?:) Nah, I saw it on myth busters, where I was from no one wore shoes enough for their feet to stink :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Feet only stink when kept in shoes or socks where the material holds the sweat and bacteria get to munchin. Seems sweat is now found to contain an anti-bacterial compound. :) Antibiotic chemicals found in sweat - 05 November 2001 - New ScientistThe skin is known to release antimicrobial chemicals when wounded. Now Birgit Schittek and her team at the University of Tübingen in Germany have discovered that even intact skin exudes a small antibiotic protein called dermcidin in sweat. "This is the first antimicrobial compound in sweat ever to be described," Schittek says. ... Other stuff in human sweat: :evil: Perspiration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Sweat also contains the chemicals or odorants 2-methylphenol (o-cresol) and 4-methylphenol (p-cresol), as well as a small amount of urea,and is only on mammals. ... The best foot therapy is a nice foot rub.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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