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1. ## Chasing Effect Between The Gravitational Field And The Object

If you are a researcher in gravitational mechanics, please join us in the discussion. What we have done today is a modification of Newton's gravitational equation. Its significance is great, it can be comparable to GR. In the discussion, I hope you can analyze from the perspective of classic physics, and temporarily forget SR. *********************************************************************************** Newton told us that the speed of the gravitational field is infinite. The gravity equation is: F = G*M*m/R^2. No matter what the speed of the object is, it cannot escape the influence o
2. ## Doppler Effect Of Gravitational Field

We made some meaningful discussions. http://www.sciforums.com/threads/doppler-effect-of-gravitational-field.163203/ Planet -------- Perihelion precession ---- Aphelion precession per century under the Doppler effect --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mercury********** 58.404"****************** 32.938"*******meanArc= 43.053" Venus********** 38.004"****************** 38.466"*******meanArc= 38.236" Earth********** 33.073"****************** 32.392"*******meanArc= 32.726" Mars********** 27.609"****************** 24.686"*******meanAr
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4. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

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5. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

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6. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Mercury********** 58.404"****************** 32.938"*******meanArc= 43.053" Mercury Precession Deviation 43" comes from the Doppler effect of the gravitational field.
7. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Mercury********** 58.404"****************** 32.938"*******meanArc= 43.053" Mercury Precession Deviation 43" comes from the Doppler effect of the gravitational field.
8. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Planet -------- Perihelion precession ---- Afar precession per century under the Doppler effect --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mercury********** 58.404"****************** 32.938"*******meanArc= 43.053" Venus********** 38.004"****************** 38.466"*******meanArc= 38.236" Earth********** 33.073"****************** 32.392"*******meanArc= 32.726" Mars********** 27.609"****************** 24.686"*******meanArc= 26.075" Jupiter********** 14.524"****************** 13.042"*******meanArc= 13.747" Saturn********** 10.831"************
9. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Planet -------- Perihelion precession ---- Afar precession per century under the Doppler effect --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mercury********** 58.404"****************** 32.938"*******meanArc= 43.053" Venus********** 38.004"****************** 38.466"*******meanArc= 38.236" Earth********** 33.073"****************** 32.392"*******meanArc= 32.726" Mars********** 27.609"****************** 24.686"*******meanArc= 26.075" Jupiter********** 14.524"****************** 13.042"*******meanArc= 13.747" Saturn********** 10.831"************
10. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

We study a physical force situation, often by observing its speed change. Then under the Doppler effect of the gravitational field, the speed change of the object will also be different from the change under the ordinary gravitational field (non-Doppler effect). I wrote the planetary orbit precession under the action of the Doppler effect of the gravitational field. I found that if I remove this effect, there will be no precession in the planetary orbit, and with the Doppler effect, you can see that there is precession. Precession under the Doppler effect of gravitational field: Planet -
11. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Planet -------- Perihelion precession --------------- Afar precession (per century) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mercury********** 58.405"****************** 47.439" Venus********** 38.255"****************** 38.465" Earth********** 32.647"****************** 32.389" Mars********** 28.245"****************** 25.653" Jupiter********** 14.578"****************** 13.836" Saturn********** 10.822"****************** 10.190" Uranus********** 7.454"****************** 7.369" Neptune********** 5.422"****************** 5.302" These data come
12. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

I have verified with procedures that Mercury's precession deviation (44.1 "per century) is due to the Doppler effect of the gravitational field.
13. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Regarding the existence of the Doppler effect in the gravitational field, I have clearly stated that the knowledge I used is the knowledge of classical physics, I believe everyone can understand it. The distance between the planets of our solar system is not far away, and this Doppler effect cannot be ignored by us. The acceleration of gravity in classical physics is an approximate formula g = G * M / R^2 when they are very far away from each other. But when they are relatively close to each other, the results calculated using this formula will have a relatively large deviation.
14. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Regarding the existence of the Doppler effect in the gravitational field, I have clearly stated that the knowledge I used is the knowledge of classical physics, I believe everyone can understand it. The distance between the planets of our solar system is not far away, and this Doppler effect cannot be ignored by us. The acceleration of gravity in classical physics is an approximate formula g = G * M / R^2 when they are very far away from each other. But when they are relatively close to each other, the results calculated using this formula will have a relatively large deviation.
15. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Sources of the precession of perihelion for Mercury Amount (arcsec/Julian century)[8]Cause 532.3035..................Gravitational tugs of other solar bodies 0.0286.....................Oblateness of the Sun (quadrupole moment) 42.9799....................Gravitoelectric effects (Schwarzschild-like), a General Relativity effect −0.0020...................Lense–Thirring precession 575.31.......................Total predicted 574.10±0.65[7]........Observed 532.3035" I hope someone can introduce the Doppler effect of the gravitational field and recalculate it. Planet........... Mercury... 5.75"...
16. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Sources of the precession of perihelion for Mercury Amount (arcsec/Julian century)[8]Cause 532.3035..................Gravitational tugs of other solar bodies 0.0286.....................Oblateness of the Sun (quadrupole moment) 42.9799....................Gravitoelectric effects (Schwarzschild-like), a General Relativity effect −0.0020...................Lense–Thirring precession 575.31.......................Total predicted 574.10±0.65[7]........Observed 532.3035" I hope someone can introduce the Doppler effect of the gravitational field and recalculate it. Planet........... Mercury... 5.75"...
17. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

https://photos.app.goo.gl/axeDPZggPZAjComR7 Assume that the earth speed v0 = 0. Star began to approach the earth at the speed of v. Star came to position B, and the elapsed time was T seconds. The gravitational changes experienced by the earth are as follows: A: F = G * M * m / R^2 B: F = G * M * m / (R + 1000)^2 ≈ G * M * m / R^2 According to the law of conservation of momentum: F * T = mv1-mv0 = mv1, then v1 = F * T / m = T * G * M / R^2 T = 2s: v1 = 2 * G * M / R^2 T = 1s: v1 = 1 * G * M / R^2 Because of the speed v of the star, the earth obtained a different speed v1. The larger v is, the
18. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

https://photos.app.goo.gl/axeDPZggPZAjComR7 Assume that the earth speed v0 = 0. Star began to approach the earth at the speed of v. Star came to position B, and the elapsed time was T seconds. The gravitational changes experienced by the earth are as follows: A: F = G * M * m / R^2 B: F = G * M * m / (R + 1000)^2 ≈ G * M * m / R^2 According to the law of conservation of momentum: F * T = mv1-mv0 = mv1, then v1 = F * T / m = T * G * M / R^2 T = 2s: v1 = 2 * G * M / R^2 T = 1s: v1 = 1 * G * M / R^2 Because of the speed v of the star, the earth obtained a different speed v1. The larger v is, the
19. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

“We can calculate the approximate rate of perihelion precession of a given planet by treating the other planets as uniform concentric rings, centered on the Sun, of mass equal to the planetary mass, and radius equal to the mean orbital radius.[*] This is equivalent to averaging the interplanetary gravitational interactions over the orbits of the other planets” OceanBreeze，this method is surprising. I still cannot understand why such an approximate calculation can be performed.
20. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Thank you very much for such a detailed analysis.I now have a basic understanding.
21. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

We all know that Mercury's precession is the largest, but from the observed data, why is Mercury's precession not as big as Earth? ( 5.75" < 11.45" ) This makes us very confused, hoping to get an answer here. Thank you. Table 2:The observed perihelion precession rates of the planets compared with the theoretical precession rates calculated from Equation (1024) and Table 1. The precession rates are in arc seconds per year. Planet Mercury 5.75.....5.50 Venus 2.04......10.75 Earth 11.45......11.87 Mars 16.28......17.60 Jupiter 6.55......7.42 Saturn 19.50......18.36 Uranus 3.34......2.72 Neptu
22. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Vicotr, Do you know other physicists or astronomers? This is a scientific forum, but I do n’t know where the scientists are, they are so quiet.
23. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Vicotr, my friend, thank you for your attention. I think many of us want this answer. Janus is a famous astronomer, but unfortunately he remained silent on this issue.
24. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Okay, can you explain these observations? We all know that Mercury's precession is the most obvious. Why is it not so from the observation data? Observed precession data:Mercury -------------- 5.75 ------------- 575 "per centuryVenus ---------------- 2.04 ------------- 204 "per centuryEarth ----------------- 11.45 ----------- 1145 "per centuryMars ----------------- 16.28 ----------- 1628 "per centuryJupiter --------------- 6.55 ------------- 655 "per centurySaturn ------------- 19.50 ------------ 1950 "per centuryUranus --------------- 3.34 ------------- 334 "per centuryNeptune -------------
25. ## Doppler Effect Exists Anywhere

Victor, I don't understand what you mean. These data are from here: http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/336k/Newtonhtml/node115.htmlDo you think their data is fake? Scientists' observations on the precession of planets in the solar system are all rank?
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