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  1. In the article, I mentioned that communism is nothing more than a reaction of the old social and cultural conditions towards the new idea of liberty and equality. The phenomenon is similar to what happen after the market crash. To visualize the idea, I have plotted the downward movement of Dow Jones Industrial Average from 1929-1932 and the Japanese property index from 1990-2003. The similarity of the two curves is easy to discern: there are multiple major peaks in the downward movement, and the values of these peaks tend to become lower. The historical course in Russia and China display some
  2. China, Democracy, & Liu Xiaobo Recently, I encountered certain interesting articles on Mr. Liu Xiaobo, the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize in 2010. They were written by Cao Changqing, a Chinese scholar living in New York and an old time friend of Mr. Liu, and posted on Chinese forums. His articles have been controversial because his criticism of Mr. Liu, who has been praised by all quarters of the liberal intellectuals in China and abroad since the announcement of the prize for his pro-democratic activities and his petition to the Chinese government for political reform, leading to his i
  3. The alleged king Smekhkare has disappeared of due to the DNA work. I know some still insists that the mummy in KV55 is Smekhkare, not Akhenaten. Someone has offered a genetic analysis to demonstrate that this is virtually impossible. The comments in [] are mine.
  4. "It's in his cartouche", yes, i see it, but the question when it was made remains an issue. If it was made before his death, you cannot be sure it would remain the same after his death. My guess (without going into the trouble of searching for it) is that it was made before his death. Also I should point out that inclusion of “living forever” in the cartouche is a unique Ptolemaic phenomenon, it is irrelevant to the New Kingdom we are talking about. Using this to prove something a thousand years earlier is misleading. I guess enough have been said. I will make a summary below. My debate
  5. All the above debate is an non-issue considering the latest finding on the mummy of KV55. There are also some other evidence used to show she was a king (attached photo).
  6. No, I did not misundersatnd at all. Interestingly, the first you quoted was 318, the same means it is the same as 317. Why you are not showing 317? It actually says "immortal or living forever; see "Living" No. 833, "King Ptolemy immortal, beloved by Ptah..." It is not clear in this case whether the king was alive or dead. The fact that under 319 it is specified that "this word is used as synonymous with ‘deceased,’ " suggests to me the rest do not means a deceased person; otherwise there is no need to explan it here. I don't hink you can conclude that the Egyptian make no distinction bet
  7. I need to add a few words here because of an important development. I don’t want to wait for modest’s reply because it would not be fair to all the other viewers. When I was writing my previous reply, I was already aware of a recent publication by Zahi Hawass et al. regarding their DNA test. According to the paper, “Genetic fingerprinting allowed the construction of a 5-generation pedigree of Tutankhamun's immediate lineage. The KV55 mummy and KV35YL were identified as the parents of Tutankhamun.” (Ancestry and Pathology in King Tutankhamun's Family, JAMA. 303:638-47.) If the results are corre
  8. I think we are not arriving at the conclusion yet. From the reconstructed image, it was probably 318 or 320, but the left side was essentially reconstructed. Again, I give her the benefit of doubt. In that case, it might not mean the deceased; only 319 has a clear relation to the deceased. Now, you still have to look at the other side - how to explain the examples I quoted above, none of which are deceased? I check out the Hyme to Aten, which used Ankh + 316 (similar to 317) to refer to the royal couple when they were definitely alive. I don't think the Egyptian do not buther to distinguish
  9. I cannot tell how reliable is the "reconstruction" (that could be tricky), but let us assume that she got it right for the time being, it all boils down to the phrase of "living for ever and ever" ( that was on your quote) or "for all time" - not much a difference - it is the key issue. Such a phrase could refer to the dead, or to the living persons, but not to both. Since "living for ever and ever" was used in the Hyme to Aten" (see the following sentence), and that was clearly a case of living king and queen, I believe the phrase was not used to refer to the dead at the time. I don't think
  10. why would a forger not follow tradition as close as possible? well, this argument has been used over and over by those who argue against any challenge. Unfortunately, the forgers typically do not know enough about the tradition, nor do they want to bother. Maybe some of them do, but in that case we wouldn't be able to spot them in the first place. I have to say a few more words about their feet. If Nefertiti was only a queen, she should not put her left foot a full step froward in the presense of the king (half a step is the most she could do). If she was a co-ruler, then she was entitle
  11. Welcome on board, Turtle, the Egyptians enjoyed their animal deities, although I don't remember they had any turtle ones. I know that deviation could occur, but this statue does not give me a feeling of an Egyptian art work. Another alleged Egyptian statue that caused such feeling in my mind is that of Queen Tetisheri of the 17th Dynasty, and it has been accepted as a fake. After a while, you get to know the feeling - what is Egyptian, what is Sumerian, etc. To tell you the truth, this statue reminds me of AH & EB. Yes, I have formed a habit of scrutinizing archaeological findings si
  12. I got the image from [http://heritage-key.com/egypt/nefertiti-most-beautiful-king-egypt], where it is treated as a shawabti. In any event, the statue violates every artistic convention in ancient Egypt. They are very religious people, and the post are highly dignified, with their eyes looking straight forward. In case of a statue of a couple, there is only one person, the husband, with his left foot step froward since this is a status symbol. Even Amarna art still observes most of the convention. Here, the king's eyes are rolling sideway, and assume a cynical look. Nefertiti does not looks lik
  13. I do mean coffin, not mummy. the picture of the shawabti of the royal couple is here: What I haven't been able to find is the origin of this item. I have some doubt about its authenticity.
  14. SWB and the Cultural Systems Lin, Ershen 1. Preliminary Analysis Research on subjective ware-being (SWB) has become increasingly important as people rediscover the spiritual value in a prosperous materialistic world. It is difficult to correlate SWB index with conventional social development indices, even though tentative correlations have been proposed with health, longevity, income and education. The SWB data from Marks et al. indicate that figure of Japan and South Korea is close to Vietnam and Philippines and lower than China and Mongolia, while the figure of US is close to Venezu
  15. There is a reason why there should be another ruler between Ay and Horemheb. We know that Ay was buried in WV23 and then desecrated in a later date. These two acts are unlikely to be carried out under the same ruler. If Horemheb was responsible for the latter act, there should be another king to allow Ay to be buried with honor. Who would this king be? It was probably Nakhtmin, whose tomb and mummy was never found. When Manetho named Acencheres I, Acencheres II and Harmais as the three kings between Rathotis and Ramesses, he suggests a kinship between the first two kings, which fits well with
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