D?nal Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 from Leading Edge Research Group: Copyrighted text deleted by Tormod since D?nal failed to show that he has got permission to publish the material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lou Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 D?nal, welcome to our forum! thanks for the post, its very interesting and informative.(although i can only understand 20% of it due to my lack of knowledge...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D?nal Posted October 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 I am very skeptical of it though. It has not been repeated, and this article was released in 1994! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aki Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 Originally posted by: Tim_LouD?nal, welcome to our forum! thanks for the post, its very interesting and informative.(although i can only understand 20% of it due to my lack of knowledge...) Me too, I'm already lost in the 2nd paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Hi DNal, and welcome to these fora!interesting post you made, however in my opinion this (and all the work i've skipped through at http://www.trufax.org where this seems to come from) is hardly a scientiffic article, it just uses many difficoult words... if i understand this all correctly; this guy made a 3D, real time, image of the magnetic field surrounding his head(the measurements are in the order of pico Gauss; we dont know the uncertainty); and there he noticed that at a certain time (? it is not quite clear to me if the "ER-bridge" was there all the time) there is "... a doughnut crossed by a sausage... ". This is all completely fine by me. our body certainly produces a small magnetic field; and more or less symmetric shapes like 'doughnuts' and 'sausages' seem completely predictable. Hoewever here goes something completely wrong with the arguments. This guy has seen to much star-trek and thinks that as soon as he sees something like this: http://www.astrosociety.org/education/publications/tnl/24/images/hole1.gif he thinks ha has discoverd a Einstein Rosen bridge (more comonly known as wormhole). The point is here that what a ER bridge is about the geometry of space time. So we can e.g. picture us selves confined to a circle (simplified form of the 'doughnut' (or torus)....). While confined to the circle, we can only travel from 2 opposite points, by walking along the circle. an ER bridge would now imply that -all of a sudden- there also is a direct way between 2 opposite points. although what is described in this article looks like this effect, it has nothing to do with it, because the toroidal magnetic field is NOT confined to a toroidal space time. (at least not at this small scale). It is just a Doughnut shaped field; just as a doughnut is doughnut shaped. (a flaw in your doughnut machine, giving the structure described, also is not an ER bridge...). simply said, the author shows a complete misconception of the concetps of General relativity (of which an ER bridge is part)... Bo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 This is a cut and paste of some speech given somewhere. Does that not violate the FAQ? Without pursuing it further, it seems like postmoderistic psudeo-science. Tim, Aki, perhaps it is not your lack of education that stops you from following it as much as a lack of solid substance of the presentation. Lots of scientific words dumped into mumbo jumbo. a relativistic spatio-temporal cavity with local enfolded hyperspatial bridges that undergoes harmonic resonances to magnetic and acoustical stimuli. The implications are almost astronomicalEspecially with the addition of the hyperbole at the end. It's an effective rhetorical tool. But I don't buy it. I'd love for a credible, referenced source to evaluate it. I wonder if anyone on the net has? Are there confirming or refuting sources? If we are going to use this site to explore and evaluate, this seems like a good candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 the article comes from this website: http://www.trufax.org in particular here: http://www.trufax.org/convers/conv3.html this appears to be some kind of convention. information on the whats of this: http://www.trufax.org/convers/conv1.htmlquote from that: We are totally anonymous, as are our temples and school s. Their locations are secret, protected by truly hyperspatial and ultraspatial force fields, impossible to detect and locate by any technology known to man today.andWe ARE only an ancient Hermetic Gnostic Magickal Order concerned with the intellectual and spiritual evolution of mankind. some hermetic orders:http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/index.shtmlhttp://www.qblh.org/qblh2/index.html judge for yourself.... Bo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlameTheEx Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Sigh. We have a problem here. It takes seconds to copy a long, confused, and complex load of bilge into this forum,...... and hours to refute it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Thanks. It sounded like psudeo-science ramblings. And as you say Blame, it is easier to make claims than support them. We see that regularly around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Okay, since we got the source resolved I'll let this topic stay open. But D?nal, be warned: it is illegal to post material from any other site at Hypography without providig the source. Failure to comply will lead to posts being deleted and your account to be closed. Please read our FAQ for more information about this. I give you 24 hours to check with the source that you can reproduce the content here, or I will delete the post. I am responsible for the content on this site and I cannot publish copyrighted material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D?nal Posted November 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 What i'm confused about the article is sayings like this: "These shapes, wh ich you all recognise as hyperspatial four-dimensional plots, are indeed magnetic-acoustical resonance chambers. Notice that these amazing geometries are the synergistic effect of the magnetic fields of these six organs surrounded by the ventricles, under the roof of the choroid plexus and corpus callosum. Notice what happens if I subtract the field of even a single organ, let’s say the pineal gland. See how it changes the entire structure?13 And, if I add the contribution of the mamillary body, it only w idens the tube, right? And if we add the field from the reticular formation, the master circuit network, relay and switchboard of the brain where all waves are originated, what do we get? Next frame, please? We get a tunnel merging with the main ellipsoid al field. In the screen, it is the orange coloured grid." what do they mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D?nal Posted November 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 I understand what Bo said about them finding a "einstein-rosen bridge", but what about this here: What do these nested fields look like to you, dear friends? (Cross talk and comments). A topological analogue of a relativistic, locally curved space-time locus around a solar system. Of course! What else? A space-time torus with an Einstein-Rosen bridge connecting its median points! I wonder what they mean by this? Does anyone care to comment on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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