What will be the changes if we move from 3rd dimension level to 4rth dimension level

[arijit]

pls help me .

[Freethinker]

You'd stop being "Special" and start being "General"

[Uncle Martin]

Originally posted by: arijit

pls help me .

It appears to me that you are in need of help. Please(I mean pls) define your question. If English is not your primary language please pardon my sarcasm. Other dimensions is a topic I enjoy contemplating, however I'm uncertain of what you wish to know.

[TeleMad]

We already exist at a 4-dimensional level: three of space and one of time.

 

String theory predicts there are 10 or 11 spatial dimensions, but with all but 3 of them being "compactified" (curled up) to sizes undetectable as of yet.

[Truth]

Keep it simply.the 4th dimension is time itself ,but if you mean hyper dimensions if that is true I think the stretching of space/time is the 4 dimension.The 4th dimension is not a place but a direction one can go or travel in.In the 4th dimension time and space become = and this is why one has large distances in space between objects.

[Freethinker]

Actually, keeping it simple would be to understand what Telemad posted (and I also posted, but with intended humor) that we DO live in a 4 dimensional "level". Time, which is the 4th dimension, is NOT seperate from location (space). That IS our existence in the time/space continuum. And that is the difference between Special and General Relativity.

[Truth]

(Level)Thisisnot a video game! We live in a 4dimensional universe and only in modern times has space and time considered to becodependant.I am sorry to say you are wrong.If you are familiar with zeno's paradox it has been solved by Peter Lynds.Research is your best bet and all you have to do is look up Peter Lynds or Zeno's paradox. You guys seem to be nice, but my ideas are so simply you cant understand it.Stephen Hawkinsmade know reply when asked what do you think about Peter Lyndsconcepts on time.The Einsteinian universe only applies at certain levels and he(Einstein) was right when he said the universe could be explained geometrically, that's why he usedReimanns ideas to explain the geometric tensors of space-time.My idea explains how you get these vastdistances in the space -time continuum.

[Freethinker]

Oh I LOVE Zeno's Paradoxes!

 

The problem with Peter Lynds attempts to resolve Zeno's is he uses tautology and reductio. For Peter's attempts see:

 

"Zeno?s Paradoxes: A Timely Solution

Peter Lynds1"

 

http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001197/02/Zeno_s_Paradoxes_-_A_Timely_Solution.pdf

 

From it, you will find he begs the question with:

 

"We of course know that motion and physical continuity are possible and an obvious feature of nature,

so there has to be something wrong with the initial assumptions regarding the paradoxes."

 

Yet he never supports this claimed knowledge. He does repeat it's approach over and over as if the repitition is sufficient support.

 

"there is not a precise static instant in time underlying a dynamical physicalprocess. If there were, the relative position of a body in relative motion or a specific physical magnitude, although precisely determined at such a precise static instant, it would also by way of logical necessity be frozen static at that precise static instant. Furthermore, events and all physical magnitudes would remain frozen static, as such a precise static instant in time would remain frozen static at the same precise static instant: motion would not be possible. (Incidentally, the same outcome would also result if such a precise static instant were hypothetically followed by a continuous sequence of further precise static instants in time, as by its very nature, a precise static instant in time does not have duration over interval in time,"

 

By repeating "static" and "instant" and "frozen" in various combinations he gives the "appreance" of providing support. But it is just tautological repetition.

 

You will find this covered very well at

 

"Zeno's Paradox: A response to Mr. Lynds

 

by Eric Engle"

 

http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001333/01/ZENO.html

 

Or perhaps I have missed Lynds response?

[Truth]

I believe lynds is correct, for eventually the tortoise will eventually over-take the hare.You are right about the field of logic used in the paradox,but the point I am making here is in the macro world space/time is flat, so any object in a flat space/time no matter how slower than its competition would eventually catch up.So when you say time you are really mean atomic.And this is why atomic clocks are more accurate than the clocks in the macro world.There of course is more but I cant tell all of the details of my discoveries.

[Uncle Martin]

Originally posted by: Truth

I believe lynds is correct, for eventually the tortoise will eventually over-take the hare....

Zeno of Elea's paradox of Achilles and the tortoise is in no way related to the fabled tortoise and hare. You appear to be confusing two very different stories.

...the point I am making here is in the macro world space/time is flat, so any object in a flat space/time no matter how slower than it competition would eventually catch up.

This is amazing. You are telling us that if I travel through space at .5 c, and you travel on the same trajectory leaving one hour later at .1 c, that you will eventually catch up to me? PLEASE explain how this works.

There of course is more but I cant tell all of the details of my discoveries.

Oh but please do share your discoveries with the rest of us. That is what I live for.

[Truth]

The baby has to be thrown out because of a name.In a vaccum will a bowling ball fall at the same rate as a feather? Time is not a reference point only space. We all know on earth the ball and feather will fall at different rates because spacetime is flat.In the atomic worldparticles have been known to be in 2 positions at once.If you figure that out then you will understand whatI am saying.Waiting to hear neworiginal concepts not this pasted articles done by kids who really dont know anything.

[Truth]

little harsh there UNCLE MARTINarent you, dont die over it.

[Uncle Martin]

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were responding to my post. To answer your question, yes. A feather and bowling ball will fall at the same rate in a vacuum. Space/time are in some sense reference points. Flat space has nothing to do with a difference in rate of fall, that is atmospheric resistance(friction). Particles have been reportedly observed in two locations simultaneously(only two?). If I could figure that out I'd still have no idea what you are "saying", that would be of little consequence as I received my Nobel Prize.

[Truth]

I am sorry but you are wrong.Do you know what I mean by flat space/time? Only on the earth can an object travel in a straight line.Time is an atomic phenomenon not a spacial one like the one we take for granted.Time is what came into existence first then space and then ... In the atomic world you cannot track a particle in space only in time.You can only predict "about" here. In the macro world you can track an object in space not in time.All clocks do not tick the same in the macro world.Im sure you have experienced this.Einsteins theory of relativity states that fact.Have you noticed that when you measure the speed of light ,the spacial scale is considerably larger than the units of time.Time is not a macro phenomenon but a atomic one. Because space is so vast you can only say, "about" to describe it.Such as the speed of light and even that is in question what is a Red Shift or Blue Shift of light.

[Uncle Martin]

Originally posted by: Truth

I am sorry but you are wrong.

That is possible. However I believe that your are a bit confused. Now that you've posted some of your thoughts, we can work to understand things better. TeleMad would be infinitely better on this than I, but since I'm here now I'll give it a shot. Someone will no doubt correct us both later.

Do you know what I mean by flat space/time?

No, I do not. You've not explained your definition. Flat space to me is the end result of the "Big Rip" theory being correct. The ultimate entropy, 0 degrees Kelvin.

Only on the earth can an object travel in a straight line.

Well,.... technically, an absolutely straight line is an impossibility. But since you make this claim, why would the laws of physics be different only on Earth as compared to the rest of the universe? I really don't understand this comment.

Time is an atomic phenomenon not a spacial one like the one we take for granted.Time is what came into existence first then space and then ...

Would you please explain this further. As it is, it does not make enough sense for me to reply. I'm not trying to be difficult, I really don't know what it is that you're trying to say.

In the atomic world you cannot track a particle in space only in time.You can only predict "about" here.

That is correct, it is generally refered to as the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal.

In the macro world you can track an object in space not in time.

I disagree. Space and time are codependent. Either without the other would be meaningless.

All clocks do not tick the same in the macro world.Im sure you have experienced this.Einsteins theory of relativity states that fact.Have you noticed that when you measure the speed of light ,the spacial scale is considerably larger than the units of time.Time is not a macro phenomenon but a atomic one.

I believe your are trying to understand time dilation and possibly length contraction. There are many good online references for information on these.

Because space is so vast you can only say, "about" to describe it.

There is much that we do not know.

Such as the speed of light and even that is in question what is a Red Shift or Blue Shift of light.

The speed of light's invariance has been questioned lately, I'm unaware of any demonstrable proof to this effect. Some recent experiments have possibly slowed it down under extreme conditions, this is very different than a photon in a vacuum. The Doppler effect is light that is shifted to either the blue or red end of the electromagnetic spectrum due to the light's source either receding from, or approaching the observer. Red is receding, blue is approaching.

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: Truth

There of course is more but I cant tell all of the details of my discoveries.

Oh man, we've got another one!

 

You do attract them Tormod! :-)

I believe lynds is correct,

Yes I imagine you do. I hope that makes you happy! We should never question anything that makes us happy.

the point I am making here is in the macro world space/time is flat, so any object in a flat space/time no matter how slower than its competition would eventually catch up

Let's start by assuming that English is not your primary language?

 

What are you trying to say? This makes no sense.

 

Please explain yourself more completely and provide verifyable proof for any claims.

 

And then there is

Only on the earth can an object travel in a straight line.

I can't imagine where to even start.

[Uncle Martin]

Ha,

 

He thought I was "harsh".

 

I was going to break him in gently before throwing him to the wolves.

 

This one may have potential.