Turtle Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I don't think the ancient Chinese had those Electroscopes to view nano-hairs with.BUT, I did find a Zen Koan about Lotus... A monk asked Chimon, "Before the lotus blossom has emerged from the water, what is it?"Chimon said, "A lotus blossom."The monk pursued, "After it comes out of the water, what is it?"Chimon replied,"Lotus leaves." Monk: "Before the lotus blossom has emerged from the water, what is it?"Turtle: "Not wet".Monk: "After it comes out of the water, what is it?"Turtle: "Not wet". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Back to Jeet Kune DO: So, thought is the reaction of a mind conditioned by experience. :) :D I am not free to not so respond; or is experience a mind conditioned by thought?:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 The instant you speak about a thing, you miss the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Possessing much knowledge is like having a thousand foot fishing line with a hook, but the fish is always an inch beyond the hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the men of old; seek what they sought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 At any given moment, I open my eyes and exist. And before that, during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesMan Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 If you wish to gain knowledge, everyday put something in.If you wish to gain WISDOM, everyday take something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 The only Zen you find on the tops of mountains is the Zen you bring up there.Robert M. Pirsig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 One day, while talking with his monks, Sansho remarked,"When a student comes, I go out and meet him with no purpose of helping him."When Koge heard of this remark, he commented,"When a student comes, I do not often go out to meet him, but if I do, I will surely help him" :shrug: :) :hyper: Meaning???: Sansho and Koge were both disciples of Rinzai. They take opposite directions, but their meaning is the Same! :eek: Dedicated to InfiniteNow! Aw... shucks. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Hey Racoon, The Koans are great, but the impact is lessened if you describe their meaning to the reader... Maybe I will interpret it completely differently, and that's what makes it zen. Cheers. :hyper: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 ___Asian philosophy is indeed often eloquent; however, eloguence in itself is not sufficient for wisdom. ___A little kone pome:I do not like koans,not one bit,I'd rather chew,a ball of grundy. ____Quite long ago & just nearby, I went in for a bit o' tit-for-tat on the issue; here's a link to the thread & a paraphrased quote from me in it:http://hypography.com/forums/philosophy-humanities/1765-atomic-blake-koan-2.html?highlight=koans One morning as I strode to my master's gate for study, he came out to meet me. "Rather than our normal meditations today", he said, "I present you this Koan. What is the sound of one hand clapping?" I immediately slapped his face so hard & so fast that his knees sagged, his eyes watered, and his face reddened. Quickly regaining his masterly monkly composure, he dismissed me to whatever leisure I desired for the day and never presented me with a Koan again. ___Some of my fondest memories of visits with Racoon, have been disagreable.:hyper: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boerseun Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 My car went "Zennnnn...." just before the transmission blew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Most often the teacher cannot show the student the answer, but can show them the path to take in order to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 ___Not infrequently the teacher repeats another's question on the chance to find out if it has an answer and if so, what it is.:shrug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 ___Not infrequently the teacher repeats another's question on the chance to find out if it has an answer and if so, what it is.:shrug:Don't you know, Turtle? The answer is always another question! If you're lucky and asked the proper question to begin with, then the answer is multiple new questions... :hyper: Cheers. :hyper: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Don't you know, Turtle? The answer is always another question! If you're lucky and asked the proper question to begin with, then the answer is multiple new questions... :shrug: Cheers. :hyper: I know the trickery & misdirection of masters & their disciples, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 The good teacher is the one who never ceases to view themself as a student. The good student is the one who never ceases to view themself as able to teach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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