Death....is it the end?

[Kizzi]

Will my death be the end of my existence?

 

KiZzI :evil:

 

And is there nothing I/We can do about it?

[Boerseun]

Unfortunately, all signs (scientific signs, that is) seem to point in that direction, Kizzi.

 

And I tend to agree.

 

What you're asking, contains much more depth than just a simple 'yes/no' answer. Issues like what a soul actually is, comes to the fore, and whether a 'soul' actually could be said to exist.

 

All I can give you is my opinion, regarding matters metaphysical. And as far as this matter is concerned, I'm of the opinion that death can be described as the failure of a body to metabolize. Once you're dead, you're dead. We don't want to believe it, though, because we don't want to waste our lives to die without anything to look forward to. Self-deception can be a wonderful thing, but at the same time, very dangerous.

 

Asking what lies in store for us after death is about as meaningful as asking what you remember from before your birth. With pretty much the same answer, I imagine. Before your birth, you didn't exist. And after your eventual death, well... you won't exist, either. So, in short, you won't be around to worry about it!

 

But never fear - if you make full use of your potential, what you are, what you can become and what you want to be, you'll enjoy the ride. But remember to stop and smell the roses along the way, because you'll never get the chance again!

[UncleAl]

Hatch, match, snatch. Get over it and enjoy the interregnum.

[Fishteacher73]

Simple law of conservation of matter... YOu may not be here all together, but there will be bits a pieces pread about in the worms and bacteria. You'll be here, but spread over a slightly larger area and in a slightly less organized manner.

[Dark Mind]

In short: Yes, your death will be the end of your physical existence.

 

And: Yes, there is something you can do about it. Eliminate the free radicals that stimulate aging in your body.

 

Good luck :hihi:.

[Jay-qu]

i only replied no becuase if you subscribe to the belief of Einstiens space-time, then you will always be exsisting somewhen and somewhere in space-time.

[Dark Mind]

Somewhat correct...

 

Somewhen implies you would have existed, at least to me... :hihi:

 

I think Kizzi is asking if death is the end of our conscious awareness... Guess we have to wait to hear from him before we can move forward :hihi:.

[Kizzi]

yes I was referring to the end of our conscious awareness.

 

If only we could time travel back in time, this might solve everything.....open the doors to eternity.

 

All I can say is it's amazing were here to witness these events. ;)

[goku]

can anyone remember their first bite of ice cream?

just because you can't remember before you were born doesn't mean that you did not exist before you were born.

i believe in life after death, so should everyone else.

did i exist before birth i don't know, does it matter?

 

for evidence of a soul i ask you this, who are you?

[bartock]

yes I was referring to the end of our conscious awareness.

 

If only we could time travel back in time, this might solve everything.....open the doors to eternity.

 

All I can say is it's amazing were here to witness these events. ;)

well,if religion is true,( some religions say that) one is aware and conscious before and after his physical existence.

 

we know energy can change forms.so .........

[pgrmdave]

I believe, although I cannot prove at this point, that consciousness is caused by the patterns of our brains, and the self-rearranging nature of the brain. Thus, if the patterns are destroyed, the consciousness is gone. 'Tis that simple.

[Dark Mind]

yes I was referring to the end of our conscious awareness.

 

If only we could time travel back in time, this might solve everything.....open the doors to eternity.

 

All I can say is it's amazing were here to witness these events. ;)

I wonder if Jay-qu, goku, and bartock want to change their answers after this... Although, after reading the posts afterwards it doesn't seem to likely...

[lisajonesrn]

Oops, I meant to say "no" on the poll.

[Jay-qu]

I wonder if Jay-qu, goku, and bartock want to change their answers after this... Although, after reading the posts afterwards it doesn't seem to likely...

 

nope, im sticking with my answer. For some reason our minds are 'caught up in the flow of time' and if you where somehow able to remove oneself you would become invincible (although it would be quite useless because even thought requires time) - but then again like I said before you exsist somewhere and somewhen that is absolute, the illusion of past present and future cant remove you from exsistance - except at a point in time

[goku]

waiting untill death to decide if it is the end or not is foolish!

[Mercenaryend]

it seems kind of odd though , i mean eventually humans (if we live long enough with all these nukes, food shortages , and no more fuel), but humans will eventually shread there organic body , and replace it with something better like metal, and plastic bodies with only the brain left as any organic material, then we will shread even that into only thoughts, and at that point reach immortality, but it just seems weird that every soul before that immortality will die and never get the chance to do what those thoughts will do.

i have no opinion on death nor religion weather its right or wrong , but i will say this if you dont know about death the worst thing you can do to find out is go jump off a bridge.... :)

[Christopher]

Syntax

A man staring at his equations

said that the universe had a beginning.

There had been an explosion, he said.

A bang of bangs, and the universe was born.

And it is expanding, he said.

He had even calculated the length of its life:

ten billion revolutions of the earth around the sun.

The entire globe cheered;

They found his calculations to be science.

None thought that by proposing that the universe began,

the man had merely mirrored the syntax of his mother tongue;

a syntax which demands beginnings, like birth,

and developments, like maturation,

and ends, like death, as statements of facts.

The universe began,

and it is getting old, the man assured us,

and it will die, like all things die,

like he himself died after confirming mathematically

the syntax of his mother tongue.

 

 

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The Other Syntax

 

Did the universe really begin?

Is the theory of the big bang true?

These are not questions, though they sound like they are.

Is the syntax that requires beginnings, developments

and ends as statements of fact the only syntax that exists?

That's the real question.

There are other syntaxes.

There is one, for example, which demands that varieties

of intensity be taken as facts.

In that syntax nothing begins and nothing ends;

thus birth is not a clean, clear-cut event,

but a specific type of intensity,

and so is maturation, and so is death.

A man of that syntax, looking over his equations, finds that

he has calculated enough varieties of intensity

to say with authority

that the universe never began

and will never end,

but that it has gone, and is going now, and will go

through endless fluctuations of intensity.

That man could very well conclude that the universe itself

is the chariot of intensity

and that one can board it

to journey through changes without end.

He will conclude all that, and much more,

perhaps without ever realizing

that he is merely confirming

the syntax of his mother tongue.

 

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From "The Active Side of Infinity" by Carlos Castaneda