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Posted 17 March 2020 - 06:57 PM

Before you laugh this off, name one instance this was actually tested.



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Posted 17 March 2020 - 06:59 PM

Is a particle an excitation in the Higgs field?



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Posted 17 March 2020 - 07:01 PM

Other free particles can interact without causing decoherence. Light is responsible for most decoherence. Are we breathing in quantum waves when in a completely black room?
 
Have we tested an unobserved matter wave without a vacuum? No light, but let there be air in it. I don't think decoherence is very fragile to other free particles that are not light. It explains how tunneling can happen in our bodies at the cell level for energy.


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Posted 17 March 2020 - 07:03 PM

Coherent matter-waves do not decay?
 
The reason it can be predestined is because the quantum field doesn't have restrictions on forward time knowledge for decoherence events. An exploratory wave does the journey, stretching the entire distance. If decoherence is experienced, the wave swaps to be physical back at the beginning (this might be an entanglement type event - like a wave going through both slits of a double slit experiment). The wave is now a real particle and can decay.
 
Check out "Decay of Coherence" in this pdf http://othes.univie....-28_0747803.pdf


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Posted 17 March 2020 - 07:06 PM

The quantum field doesn’t care about distance. It doesn't use the spatial dimensions of spacetime. Entanglement is a wave only activity. The particles are not real/physical until measured/decohered. The quantum field sees entanglement as a single entity. After measurement, they are not waves anymore. The wave has been split in two. This is why one gets the opposite spin as the other.



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Posted 17 March 2020 - 07:08 PM

It couldn't be that simple could it?
 
Is decoherence assigning real numbers to a quantum wave that was using imaginary numbers?


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Posted 17 March 2020 - 07:10 PM

How about holographic mass with no Higgs coupling, leaving its only option to be cohered matter waves?



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Posted 17 March 2020 - 07:13 PM

Is the reason you can make out the shape of the sun and the moon is because the leaves (between gaps) caused the light to be photons instead of waves?



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Posted 17 March 2020 - 08:04 PM

The zeno effect is just the quantum field keeping the particle ageless.



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Posted 17 March 2020 - 08:06 PM

I'm convinced Spacetime and the Quantum Field are two separate realms. Tell me why you think the Quantum Field is using Spacetime for anything other than decoherence.

 

Quantum waves are not using Spacetime. If the quantum field has its own source of temporal, it would explain why unobserved waves are not moving faster than light. It would also explain the path of diffraction observed/physical particles take ..maybe the clocks are out of sync.

We know there is a rate from the limit set on light/causality.


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Posted 18 March 2020 - 10:29 AM

Decay of Coherence is something that can happen to decoherent particles. Coherent matter-waves do not decay.

 

The reason decoherence can be predestined is because unobserved quantum waves do not have restrictions on future decoherence events. Waves are not physical, they are not using Spacetime. The quantum field has a separate timeline (temporal regulator) than the one used for Spacetime. We know they have a time rate from the limit set on light/causality. The quantum field using its own time explains the diffraction trajectory a physical particle has. The field can influence the trajectory, but it can’t make it tunnel or be in superposition. Unobserved waves do not travel in spatial dimensions.

 

A wave does the journey, stretching the entire distance. If decoherence is experienced, the wave condenses to be a wave packet back at the beginning (this might be an entanglement type event - like two waves going through two slits of the double slit experiment).

 

There may be a third step. After the particle becomes a condensed wave packet back at the beginning, the particle jumps to catch up to the distance the wave would have made without the decoherence event. This jump might look like a condensed wave packet at the beginning of the full wave length, it would shrink but build up at the advanced end like a tunneling wave. After the tunnel, the wave is now physical, using spacetime, and can now decay.

 

We know it does this back-n-forth because the delayed choice quantum eraser demonstrates a particle of a pair landing on its final panel first, knowing if it’s entangled brother will decohere in its path.


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Posted 18 March 2020 - 01:41 PM

How sure are we that an excitation in the Higgs field is a quantum wave?



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Posted 18 March 2020 - 04:24 PM

Is the reason a physical particle can be guided to a path of diffraction, from the quantum field, because the particle has an active condensed wave packet inside?
Is the Higgs boson involved?


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Posted 19 March 2020 - 08:43 AM

Decay of Coherence is something that can happen to decoherent particles. Coherent matter-waves do not decay.

 

The reason decoherence can be predestined is because unobserved quantum waves do not have restrictions on future decoherence events. Waves are not physical, they are not using Spacetime. The quantum field has a separate timeline (temporal regulator) than the one used for Spacetime. We know they have a time rate from the limit set on light/causality. The quantum field using its own time explains the diffraction trajectory a physical particle has. The field can influence the trajectory, but it can’t make it tunnel or be in superposition. Unobserved waves do not travel in spatial dimensions.

 

A quantum path manifests the entire distance instantly (the quantum field doesn’t care about distance). If decoherence is experienced, a wave condenses to be a wave packet back at the beginning (this might be an entanglement type event - like two waves going through two slits of the double slit experiment).

 

After the particle becomes a condensed wave packet back at the beginning, the particle jumps to catch up to the distance the wave would have made without the decoherence event. This jump might look like a condensed wave packet at the beginning of the full wave length, it would shrink but build up at the advanced end like a tunneling wave. After the tunnel, the wave is now physical, using spacetime, and can now decay. If jumping isn’t what actually happens, I need another way to get the particle up to the front. The alternative for this is the condensed wave packet runs the length of the wave faster than light.

 

We know it does this back-n-forth because the delayed choice quantum eraser demonstrates a particle of a pair landing on its final panel first, knowing if it’s entangled brother will decohere in its path.

Decoherence does lead to wave collapse, but only after the physical particle has passed the decoherence event initiation.

 

tl;dr. A particle can be entangled with its future self.


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Posted 19 March 2020 - 01:02 PM

I think it can do more than the wave only events we know of (superposition, entanglement, and tunneling).
 
If the quantum field doesn't care about spatial distance, does that mean every unobserved quantum wave is already everywhere throughout the quantum field? Does it explain spooky action at a distance and the delayed choice quantum eraser?
I think we are going to find the Quantum Field is a bit like the internet cloud. All Quantum waves have access to it.
 
Does a quantum wave, that is destined to decohere, behave differently than one that isn't?
 
Decay of Coherence is something that can happen to decoherent particles. Coherent matter-waves do not decay.
 
The reason decoherence can be predestined is because the quantum field is everywhere and already knows of the decoherece events.
 
Quantum waves are not physical, they are not using anything spatial. The quantum field can influence the trajectory, but it can't make it tunnel or be in superposition. Unobserved waves do not travel in spatial dimensions.
 
The delayed choice quantum eraser demonstrates a particle of a pair landing on its final panel first, knowing if it's entangled brother will decohere in its path.


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Posted 20 March 2020 - 05:43 PM

I've been trying to separate the quantum field from spacetime this whole time, but now I think it is only the spatial dimensions that get granted to a physical/observed/decohered object.

Could the unification of QM with GR be spatial vs temporal? good god

No wonder the quantum field knows of future decoherence events ..it is time.

The quantum field doesn't care about distance ..because distance is a spatial thing.

Light flows on a path set by the fabric of spacetime ..which isn't spatial either ..it's virtual.



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Posted 20 March 2020 - 06:09 PM

A black hole is a problem for the fabric of spacetime ..not the spatial dimensions.





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