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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:20 AM

I don't think it is all black and white and I think their are many factors. Then if it is genetic why is this defect being passed on to so many kids? What caused the original defect? For example if somebody gets radiation don't that cause a defects and can be passed onto the children? I will take a look at your video as soon as I can.

The video(a certain type of review of a fictional movie) is linked because I decided being tongue-in-cheek about the K-type vs R-type civilization breeding systems/strategies was a good way to convey a probable "how and why". The movie itself is funny but scary prophetic in certain ways, while the reviewer goes into some basic details on possible reasoning and applications in the real world.

 

I would say there is something to it. Especially when governments are pushing vaccines so hard. The big problem is they give babies 6 to 10 at one time. It's not about being an anti vaxxer it. It is about seeing what these institutions are actually giving to our kids. Should we not ask questions and believe everything they tell us? I have no problem with vaccines if they do what they are supposed to do. If they are giving entities problems and are causing problems the ingredients should be looked into. Should we just be naïve and believe that everything is told to us by the "mainstream" and so called "leaders"?

Governments push vaccienes to avoid having too many cripples clogging up the economy. Polio really scythes the productive worker base (maybe less now with techie jobs?) and the various other nasty bugs likewise tend to cull the people and "waste the investment." This goes back to the K-type "invest lots to get higher quality people" civilization metric. Sadly children have not been forced to learn as much vocabulary or useful math since the 60's ~when everyone decided underwear and psychedelics were more important areas of study.~

Seriously, If you look at grade 8-10 math from the 1940-50's and compare it to the same in the 1990-2020's you'll probably be shocked. I tend to agree that one of the major causes was a switch to R-type civilization strategy during the WW2 PTSD breeding boom and the following cold war era.
 

Do you not look at the ingredients of the things you eat and give to your kids or do you just eat it and not care? It should be done with things that are literally injected in our bodies. Don't you think?
 

Well yes. That's why they inject them into mice and rats and pigs and small test groups and.... Examples of things either in or out of diet can include Cretinism for one thing. Or iodine in salts to keep the thyroid flushed properly in certain environments like those with lots of granite.
 
If you don't understand WHY I brought up cretinism, or why you want iodized salt if you spend a lot of time in areas like grand central station, you should look it up. People who went to primary school in the 50-60's should know both at the drop of a hat.
 

I thought all this was crazy at first. But my mom has been a nurse for about 20 years and she was the one that told me about some of these things and about the medical field and big pharma. I started researching things and come to find she knows what she is talking about. She can't say anything though or she will lose her job. Any medical person that tries to put out some truth will be fired and lose their license. They have to do what they are told. Most have to also because they are so in debt from the medical schools. Think how much a Doctor pays out for 8 years of medical school.

Depends on what these vague and mysterious "things and about the medical field and big pharma" are? Doctors have difficulties staying current for sure. In theory WebMD and smart phones SHOULD make them better since they can in a modern setting offload a bunch of memory storage to the cloud which before would have to be painstakingly  searched in a personal or hospital library. Same time that's also where General practice vs Specialist really shines. You shouldn't go to a GP with a cough and expect them to know about every possible cause, you go to them for a generic ailment like a broken bone. There's a reason "surgeon" is a totally different title than "MD" too: you'd much prefer a specialist surgeon repair your ACL or hernia than a GP MD if you can figure out the why. 

Most pharma is accidental, for sure. Poke rat with a liver sclerosis treatment test, notice it gets a huge erection. Rebrand the formula and sell it to old dudes with ED. Drop a mouldy bit into a petry dish and notice it kills the bacteria. Stuff like that. Even blood typing is pritty much a "mix some together and see which one turns chunky" kind of thing.


Thalidomide children are a damn good case study in "gone wrong but fixed ASAP."
 

Yes I get that. What do you think the cause of the genetic defect is then in 1 in 36 kids. I am pretty sure it wasn't 1 in 36 kids even 10 years ago.

10 years ago they often diagnosed autism as other things if they diagnosed it at all. There's been reshuffling of various disorders as we learn more about the actual underlying broken bits. A lot of Autists would be just generic labeled retarded 30 years ago, and a LOT of FAS cases that didn't include facial abnormalities were lumped into that too.

It was only recently and through the genetic marker tests that they discovered autistic women are NOT as poor off as autistic men. If you know a "tomboy" who "just cant get along with girls" you've got a high chance of knowing an un-diagnosed autistic female. Same genetic drift but the effects in mild cases push women to be more "manly" in social action. Combine that with an R-type civilization base...ya that can spread FAST. ~Well at least as fast as their legs/eggs~
 

 

Well for starters I don't take any drugs and if I did it would be plant based.

 

From what I have learned I refuse to take any vaccine no matter what it is. But then I guess it really doesn't matter by now beings when I was in the military they gave me and endless supply of vaccines. I only wonder what they injected in me. I have done full body clenses but I don't think it takes the aluminum to much out the brain. I think that is one of the reasons why my memory is so bad. Even if I read a book I can barely recite what I read. And I am not even that old just turned 40 not long ago. So to your answer no I wouldn't trust it and they would have to kill me or knock me out before I take it. I suppose what they would do is not let you renew your liscense or get a loan if your not updated on your shots. I see that as one of their plans to get all adults to have the shots they want them to. Although I also don't see them getting away with this because many people are waking up to their abuses.

Reliance on drugs is bad, but they DO have their place. Enjoy "plant based" vs Polio...Like FDR did. You would NOT enjoy that though.

Vaccines are never going to be the cause of your memory issues AFAIK. I'd be more likely to blame memory issues on laziness than drugs or vaccinations: neural plasticity is a thing. As an ex military you should know what a regular workout does for the body and what happens when you STOP doing that PT; the brain needs the same thing or it gets it's own version of pot-belly-vet syndrome. Michael Merzenich has great stuff that would probably help a LOT regarding attentional blink or generic memory fog.

On a flip note:
If 1 in 36 people are autistic, do you really want to trust that it's not the 1 in 36 who are "waking up" and inarticulately making silly unfalsifiable demands? If Autism IS majorly genetic, those markers probably came from the very parent(s) going "REEEEEEE" after all.

Then again, a lot of issues could be related to parents constantly taking pre-birth baby pictures, or spending too long looking at the little unformed monsters in the womb.

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Are you really saying the government never lies? :lol:
 
How is it a lie that the CDC has been sued and lost the court case? How does suing the CDC kill children? Also if everybody is stupid but you what is the cause of Autism? It is a bit odd you get so angry when a corrupt institution such as the CDC is sued. You might want to do yourself some research on that.

This isn't at me, but the post YOU are replying to directly relates to what I posted up there about Russel's Teapot. (the link above the video if you missed the fact there were 2 bits of info in that post)

The killing/harming children is most likely referring to any kids that have died as a result of the anti-vax movement, from diseases that would otherwise be insignificant. It's kind of like if a kid gets in an accident and loses a LOT of blood, but for "religious reasons" the parents refuse a transfusion that would save the kid's life. (Yes, there are at least two religions in north america that have that refusal of transfusion as a practice. Yes kids have died because of it.) It also relates to how people who don't FINISH THEIR ANTIBIOTICS PRESCRIPTION because they started to "feel better" 2/3 though the treatment are DANGEROUS AS ALL HELL.

If the CDC is so corrupt, you'd better be also calling into question their stats on EVERYTHING ELSE as well. Maybe we shouldn't be worried about HIV or ebola or...


Edited by GAHD, 12 March 2020 - 09:27 AM.
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Posted 13 March 2020 - 12:54 AM

The video(a certain type of review of a fictional movie) is linked because I decided being tongue-in-cheek about the K-type vs R-type civilization breeding systems/strategies was a good way to convey a probable "how and why". The movie itself is funny but scary prophetic in certain ways, while the reviewer goes into some basic details on possible reasoning and applications in the real world.

 

Governments push vaccienes to avoid having too many cripples clogging up the economy. Polio really scythes the productive worker base (maybe less now with techie jobs?) and the various other nasty bugs likewise tend to cull the people and "waste the investment." This goes back to the K-type "invest lots to get higher quality people" civilization metric. Sadly children have not been forced to learn as much vocabulary or useful math since the 60's ~when everyone decided underwear and psychedelics were more important areas of study.~

Seriously, If you look at grade 8-10 math from the 1940-50's and compare it to the same in the 1990-2020's you'll probably be shocked. I tend to agree that one of the major causes was a switch to R-type civilization strategy during the WW2 PTSD breeding boom and the following cold war era.
 

Well yes. That's why they inject them into mice and rats and pigs and small test groups and.... Examples of things either in or out of diet can include Cretinism for one thing. Or iodine in salts to keep the thyroid flushed properly in certain environments like those with lots of granite.
 
If you don't understand WHY I brought up cretinism, or why you want iodized salt if you spend a lot of time in areas like grand central station, you should look it up. People who went to primary school in the 50-60's should know both at the drop of a hat.
 

Depends on what these vague and mysterious "things and about the medical field and big pharma" are? Doctors have difficulties staying current for sure. In theory WebMD and smart phones SHOULD make them better since they can in a modern setting offload a bunch of memory storage to the cloud which before would have to be painstakingly  searched in a personal or hospital library. Same time that's also where General practice vs Specialist really shines. You shouldn't go to a GP with a cough and expect them to know about every possible cause, you go to them for a generic ailment like a broken bone. There's a reason "surgeon" is a totally different title than "MD" too: you'd much prefer a specialist surgeon repair your ACL or hernia than a GP MD if you can figure out the why. 

Most pharma is accidental, for sure. Poke rat with a liver sclerosis treatment test, notice it gets a huge erection. Rebrand the formula and sell it to old dudes with ED. Drop a mouldy bit into a petry dish and notice it kills the bacteria. Stuff like that. Even blood typing is pritty much a "mix some together and see which one turns chunky" kind of thing.


Thalidomide children are a damn good case study in "gone wrong but fixed ASAP."
 

10 years ago they often diagnosed autism as other things if they diagnosed it at all. There's been reshuffling of various disorders as we learn more about the actual underlying broken bits. A lot of Autists would be just generic labeled retarded 30 years ago, and a LOT of FAS cases that didn't include facial abnormalities were lumped into that too.

It was only recently and through the genetic marker tests that they discovered autistic women are NOT as poor off as autistic men. If you know a "tomboy" who "just cant get along with girls" you've got a high chance of knowing an un-diagnosed autistic female. Same genetic drift but the effects in mild cases push women to be more "manly" in social action. Combine that with an R-type civilization base...ya that can spread FAST. ~Well at least as fast as their legs/eggs~
 

 

Reliance on drugs is bad, but they DO have their place. Enjoy "plant based" vs Polio...Like FDR did. You would NOT enjoy that though.

Vaccines are never going to be the cause of your memory issues AFAIK. I'd be more likely to blame memory issues on laziness than drugs or vaccinations: neural plasticity is a thing. As an ex military you should know what a regular workout does for the body and what happens when you STOP doing that PT; the brain needs the same thing or it gets it's own version of pot-belly-vet syndrome. Michael Merzenich has great stuff that would probably help a LOT regarding attentional blink or generic memory fog.

On a flip note:
If 1 in 36 people are autistic, do you really want to trust that it's not the 1 in 36 who are "waking up" and inarticulately making silly unfalsifiable demands? If Autism IS majorly genetic, those markers probably came from the very parent(s) going "REEEEEEE" after all.

Then again, a lot of issues could be related to parents constantly taking pre-birth baby pictures, or spending too long looking at the little unformed monsters in the womb.

Edit:
 

 

This isn't at me, but the post YOU are replying to directly relates to what I posted up there about Russel's Teapot. (the link above the video if you missed the fact there were 2 bits of info in that post)

The killing/harming children is most likely referring to any kids that have died as a result of the anti-vax movement, from diseases that would otherwise be insignificant. It's kind of like if a kid gets in an accident and loses a LOT of blood, but for "religious reasons" the parents refuse a transfusion that would save the kid's life. (Yes, there are at least two religions in north america that have that refusal of transfusion as a practice. Yes kids have died because of it.) It also relates to how people who don't FINISH THEIR ANTIBIOTICS PRESCRIPTION because they started to "feel better" 2/3 though the treatment are DANGEROUS AS ALL HELL.

If the CDC is so corrupt, you'd better be also calling into question their stats on EVERYTHING ELSE as well. Maybe we shouldn't be worried about HIV or ebola or...

I thankyou for your post brother. It gives us all things to think about. First on my list is who are the owners of the vaccine industry, I think we really need to look into that. I posted a new thread if you can comment on that also. I love to see all sides of it and entities beliefs. I think either way we will come together and figure it all out. Is that not what science does?


Edited by Thoth101, 13 March 2020 - 01:01 AM.


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 01:09 AM

So what we are figuring now is Autism is not caused by the shots. But I did think about this conspiracy theory.What if it is the parent that got the shot that is passing it on? Is that possible?


So if the parent passes it on it is then called genetic.I just have to wonder that the the controllers didn't think about this to hide it.


By reading CIA documents they sure arn't the dumbest people in the world.lol!


You ask why? Experimentation on the human race.


Of this Earth. Because they can.


Most of human knowledge has been mind controlled and as you see from the "Corana Virus" nobody knows what is actually going on. They go out and take all TP and gloves. :lol: Dumber than zombies.lol!

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Posted 16 March 2020 - 02:19 AM

I find this interesting on the Flu shots while reading the inserts:

 

They actually don't test them for carcinogens.

 

Carcinogenesis,Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility.
FLUAD has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, or for impairment of male fertility in animals. FLUAD did not affect female fertility in a rabbit developmental toxicity study (see Section 8.1).

13.1 Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility 438

https://www.fda.gov/.../94583/download
 

AFLURIA QUADRIVALENT has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, 439 or male infertility in animals. A developmental toxicity study conducted in rats vaccinated with 440 AFLURIA (trivalent formulation) revealed no impact on female fertility
https://www.fda.gov/...117022/download

 

13.1 Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility 300
FLUARIX has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, or for impairment of 301 fertility.
https://www.fda.gov/.../84804/download



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Posted 16 March 2020 - 02:33 AM

Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Acellular Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed insert:

 

6.2 Postmarketing Experience

In addition to reports in clinical trials for INFANRIX, the following adverse reactions have been identified during postapproval use of INFANRIX. Because these reactions are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequency or establish a causal relationship to vaccination.

 

Infections and Infestations

Bronchitis, cellulitis, respiratory tract infection.

Blood and Lymphatic System Disorders

Lymphadenopathy, thrombocytopenia.

Immune System Disorders

Anaphylactic reaction, hypersensitivity.

Nervous System Disorders

Encephalopathy, headache, hypotonia, syncope.

Ear and Labyrinth Disorders

Ear pain.

Cardiac Disorders

Cyanosis.

Respiratory, Thoracic, and Mediastinal Disorders

Apnea, cough.

Skin and Subcutaneous Tissue Disorders

Angioedema, erythema, pruritus, rash, urticaria.

General Disorders and Administration Site Conditions

Fatigue, injection site induration, injection site reaction, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome.

 

Each 0.5-mL dose contains aluminum hydroxide as adjuvant (not more than 0.625 mg aluminum by assay)

https://www.fda.gov/.../75157/download



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Posted 16 March 2020 - 02:45 AM

Some starling information in the HepB insert:

https://www.fda.gov/.../74274/download

 

Nervous System Disorders
Guillain-Barré syndrome; multiple sclerosis; exacerbation of multiple sclerosis; myelitis including transverse myelitis; seizure; febrile seizure; peripheral neuropathy including Bell's Palsy; radiculopathy; herpes zoster; migraine; muscle weakness; hypesthesia; encephalitis

 

All formulations contain approximately 0.5 mg of aluminum (provided as amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, previously referred to as aluminum hydroxide) per mL of vaccine. In each formulation, hepatitis B surface antigen is adsorbed onto approximately 0.5 mg of aluminum (provided as amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate) per mL of vaccine. The vaccine contains <15 mcg/mL residual formaldehyde.
 

13.1 Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility
RECOMBIVAX HB has not been evaluated for its carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, or its potential to impair fertility [see Use in Specific Populations ( 8)].


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Posted 16 March 2020 - 04:11 AM

Ok so let me get this straight.

 

https://www.dhs.wisc...s/p0/p00261.pdf

0.2 mg/
How much aluminum is safe in drinking water?

The World Health Organization has recommended that aluminum levels in community water supplies should not exceed 0.2 mg/L. This is the same level allowed in bottled water which is regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. In January 2011, Wisconsin adopted a standard of 0.2 mg/L for aluminum levels in groundwater. Water that contains more than 0.2 mg aluminum per liter should not be used for drinking water or to prepare beverages or infant formula. It is safe to use this water for other purposes such as bathing, showering, food preparation, and household chores.

 

 

How is it ok to inject babies of shots containing 0.5 mg of aluminum into their blood system with 5 or 6 shots at a time containing different types of aluminum? Am I missing something here? In one instance the government is saying 0.2 mg is harmful and can cause dementia yet at the same time the CDC and medical is saying its ok to inject 0.5 into your bloodstream. What am I missing here?

https://www.cdc.gov/.../adjuvants.html



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Posted 16 March 2020 - 04:36 AM

Aluminum is an experimentally demonstrated neurotoxin and the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant. Despite almost 90 years of widespread use of aluminum adjuvants, medical science's understanding about their mechanisms of action is still remarkably poor. There is also a concerning scarcity of data on toxicology and pharmacokinetics of these compounds. In spite of this, the notion that aluminum in vaccines is safe appears to be widely accepted. Experimental research, however, clearly shows that aluminum adjuvants have a potential to induce serious immunological disorders in humans. In particular, aluminum in adjuvant form carries a risk for autoimmunity, long-term brain inflammation and associated neurological complications and may thus have profound and widespread adverse health consequences. In our opinion, the possibility that vaccine benefits may have been overrated and the risk of potential adverse effects underestimated, has not been rigorously evaluated in the medical and scientific community. We hope that the present paper will provide a framework for a much needed and long overdue assessment of this highly contentious medical issue.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/21568886

 

So it is possible if a baby gets so many shots with aluminum in them could that be causing the rise in autism? If causes dementia in an adult wouldn't it cause a babies brain to malfunction also?



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Posted 16 March 2020 - 04:47 AM

Wow!! :shocked: I think I found the missing key! I want to add this is all from a government site also:

 

Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?

 

Autism spectrum disorders (ASD) are serious multisystem developmental disorders and an urgent global public health concern. Dysfunctional immunity and impaired brain function are core deficits in ASD. Aluminum (Al), the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant, is a demonstrated neurotoxin and a strong immune stimulator. Hence, adjuvant Al has the potential to induce neuroimmune disorders. When assessing adjuvant toxicity in children, two key points ought to be considered: (i) children should not be viewed as "small adults" as their unique physiology makes them much more vulnerable to toxic insults; and (ii) if exposure to Al from only few vaccines can lead to cognitive impairment and autoimmunity in adults, is it unreasonable to question whether the current pediatric schedules, often containing 18 Al adjuvanted vaccines, are safe for children? By applying Hill's criteria for establishing causality between exposure and outcome we investigated whether exposure to Al from vaccines could be contributing to the rise in ASD prevalence in the Western world. Our results show that: (i) children from countries with the highest ASD prevalence appear to have the highest exposure to Al from vaccines; (ii) the increase in exposure to Al adjuvants significantly correlates with the increase in ASD prevalence in the United States observed over the last two decades (Pearson r=0.92, p<0.0001); and (iii) a significant correlation exists between the amounts of Al administered to preschool children and the current prevalence of ASD in seven Western countries, particularly at 3-4 months of age (Pearson r=0.89-0.94, p=0.0018-0.0248). The application of the Hill's criteria to these data indicates that the correlation between Al in vaccines and ASD may be causal. Because children represent a fraction of the population most at risk for complications following exposure to Al, a more rigorous evaluation of Al adjuvant safety seems warranted.

Crown Copyright © 2011. Published by Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

PMID: 22099159 DOI: 10.1016/j.jinorgbio.2011.08.008
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Posted 16 March 2020 - 09:52 PM

You can also download the whole PDF per the website. I tried uploading on here but to large.

 

https://www.scienced...946672X17308763

 

Aluminium in brain tissue in autism Abstract

Autism spectrum disorder is a neurodevelopmental disorder of unknown aetiology. It is suggested to involve both genetic susceptibility and environmental factors including in the latter environmental toxins. Human exposure to the environmental toxin aluminium has been linked, if tentatively, to autism spectrum disorder. Herein we have used transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure, for the first time, the aluminium content of brain tissue from donors with a diagnosis of autism. We have also used an aluminium-selective fluor to identify aluminium in brain tissue using fluorescence microscopy. The aluminium content of brain tissue in autism was consistently high. The mean (standard deviation) aluminium content across all 5 individuals for each lobe were 3.82(5.42), 2.30(2.00), 2.79(4.05) and 3.82(5.17) μg/g dry wt. for the occipital, frontal, temporal and parietal lobes respectively. These are some of the highest values for aluminium in human brain tissue yet recorded and one has to question why, for example, the aluminium content of the occipital lobe of a 15 year old boy would be 8.74 (11.59) μg/g dry wt.? Aluminium-selective fluorescence microscopy was used to identify aluminium in brain tissue in 10 donors. While aluminium was imaged associated with neurones it appeared to be present intracellularly in microglia-like cells and other inflammatory non-neuronal cells in the meninges, vasculature, grey and white matter. The pre-eminence of intracellular aluminium associated with non-neuronal cells was a standout observation in autism brain tissue and may offer clues as to both the origin of the brain aluminium as well as a putative role in autism spectrum disorder.


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Posted 16 March 2020 - 10:46 PM

Medical companies have to make money somehow

Billions on keeping people sick and or making people sick to increase the billions.