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#1 pittsburghjoe

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 12:10 PM

Gravity is the missing link between QM and GR. Matter Waves do not have gravity, do not age, and are not physical. Spacetime(gravity/age/physicality/local/phase velocity) is assigned via decoherence.
The quantum/classical boundary is the mass of 0.3 micrometers because gravity can't be automatically assigned below that (objects above this line are automatically decohered) and because that is the width it takes light to travel in one femtosecond. 0.3 micrometers isn't a unit of mass, but it is the width an object would be that has the right amount of mass.
Duality at the same instance is not a thing. A particle/wave will be one or the other for its path from A to B. What matters is if a particle will decohere in its flight. A dead stop isn't decoherence, that is wave collapse. Wave collapse does not influence what a particle will be in its flight. It's possible for a wave to make it from point A to B without being measured before the final screen. That's why it shows fringes. You don't get quantum weirdness (Superposition (not talking about superposition of states), Entanglement, Tunneling) events when it's a physical particle. They don't experience weirdness after decoherence. Only cohered waves are allowed weirdness events.
 
Entangled waves become physical particles at the same momment with decoherence. If they are to be physical in flight, they will be so from the beginning, no midair swaps. A measurement far after the double slit experiment shows this. Future observed matter-waves decohere before they start moving because their momentum direction triggers decoherence. (Decay of coherence)
 
The quantum field doesn't use the full dimension of time (or gravity) from spacetime. It doesn't have a forward time limit for being influenced by physical states (spacetime). This is the core of what measurement/observation is.
 
You don't use a wave function for a physical particle
A particle gets reflected by a potential well if I can describe the particle mathematically without the wave function. Duality has been assumed during physical particle flights because they can take the path of diffraction ..but that path is guided/influenced by the quantum field ..not that the particle itself is a wave.
 
This is the gateway to the Unified Theory. Physical particles go with GR, Unobserved Quantum Waves go with the Quantum Field. Spacetime is separate from the Quantum Field.
 
The Quantum Field and Spacetime are two separate realms. The Schrödinger equation is assuming the coordinates are in spacetime. The quantum field has all the properties needed to propagate a wave without spacetime. Space isn't expanding in cosmic voids beyond the Local Group, the quantum field is. Spacetime doesn't stretch/expand ..it only bends. Spacetime is everywhere, but it is not enacted everywhere. Decohered mass enacts it. We know it is not enacted everywhere because unobserved quantum waves can complete their journeys without being observed(fringes). It seems when space doesn't have mass in a region ..spacetimes' influence diminishes. Spacetime isn't bent in voids.
 
Nothing is physical without spacetime.


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 12:56 PM

Emergent gravity is pretty close to fitting the bill. This link contains a scientific paper written by a very clever man https://arxiv.org/abs/1611.02269 , can you glean any insight from this paper on Emergent gravity?

Others papers exist using the Holographic principle, have you ever thought of doing a bit of back ground reading?



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Posted 04 March 2020 - 12:57 PM

 

Gravity is the missing link between QM and GR. Matter Waves do not have gravity, do not age, and are not physical. Spacetime(gravity/age/physicality/local/phase velocity) is assigned via decoherence.
The quantum/classical boundary is the mass of 0.3 micrometers because gravity can't be automatically assigned below that (objects above this line are automatically decohered) and because that is the width it takes light to travel in one femtosecond. 0.3 micrometers isn't a unit of mass, but it is the width an object would be that has the right amount of mass.
Duality at the same instance is not a thing. A particle/wave will be one or the other for its path from A to B. What matters is if a particle will decohere in its flight. A dead stop isn't decoherence, that is wave collapse. Wave collapse does not influence what a particle will be in its flight. It's possible for a wave to make it from point A to B without being measured before the final screen. That's why it shows fringes. You don't get quantum weirdness (Superposition (not talking about superposition of states), Entanglement, Tunneling) events when it's a physical particle. They don't experience weirdness after decoherence. Only cohered waves are allowed weirdness events.
 
Entangled waves become physical particles at the same momment with decoherence. If they are to be physical in flight, they will be so from the beginning, no midair swaps. A measurement far after the double slit experiment shows this. Future observed matter-waves decohere before they start moving because their momentum direction triggers decoherence. (Decay of coherence)
 
The quantum field doesn't use the full dimension of time (or gravity) from spacetime. It doesn't have a forward time limit for being influenced by physical states (spacetime). This is the core of what measurement/observation is.
 
You don't use a wave function for a physical particle
A particle gets reflected by a potential well if I can describe the particle mathematically without the wave function. Duality has been assumed during physical particle flights because they can take the path of diffraction ..but that path is guided/influenced by the quantum field ..not that the particle itself is a wave.
 
This is the gateway to the Unified Theory. Physical particles go with GR, Unobserved Quantum Waves go with the Quantum Field. Spacetime is separate from the Quantum Field.
 
The Quantum Field and Spacetime are two separate realms. The Schrödinger equation is assuming the coordinates are in spacetime. The quantum field has all the properties needed to propagate a wave without spacetime. Space isn't expanding in cosmic voids beyond the Local Group, the quantum field is. Spacetime doesn't stretch/expand ..it only bends. Spacetime is everywhere, but it is not enacted everywhere. Decohered mass enacts it. We know it is not enacted everywhere because unobserved quantum waves can complete their journeys without being observed(fringes). It seems when space doesn't have mass in a region ..spacetimes' influence diminishes. Spacetime isn't bent in voids.
 
Nothing is physical without spacetime.

 

This is nonsense and absolute crackpottery. Not just slight crackpottery but absolute crackpottery its like it comes from someone that doesn't understand physics at all.


Edited by VictorMedvil, 04 March 2020 - 12:59 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 01:01 PM

I have math backing up my claims. I suggest you read it again.

 

..also, dark energy isn't a thing.



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Posted 04 March 2020 - 01:04 PM

I have math backing up my claims. I suggest you read it again.

 

..also, dark energy isn't a thing.

which is still crackpottery, even if you have math backing you up your statements can still be crackpottery, does your math have statement such as 2+2 = 5.


Edited by VictorMedvil, 04 March 2020 - 01:06 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 01:08 PM

yeah, it means the physical particle gets reflected by a potential well that uses the wave function. Physical particles do not show quantum weirdness events. It's really sad how you guys look for any reason possible to not consider a new idea.


Edited by pittsburghjoe, 04 March 2020 - 01:08 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 01:11 PM

yeah, it means the physical particle gets reflected by a potential well that uses the wave function. Physical particles do not show quantum weirdness events. It's really sad how you guys look for any reason possible to not consider a new idea.

That is part of science its not innocent until proven guilty, it's guilty until proven innocent, such that basically it is wrong until it is proven correct.



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Posted 04 March 2020 - 01:20 PM

I have math backing up my claims. I suggest you read it again.

 

..also, dark energy isn't a thing.

 

Ok skimmed down your paper its well written, and not too long. I see no predictions, can you make any like getting the same answers as GR. 

€ ψ = ρ exp(iS h), in the one-body case this led to the proposal € m dqi(t) dt = ∂S(x,t) ∂xi xi = qi (t) , i =1,2,3, (1.1) where m is the mass of the particle. We call this the de Broglie-Bohm law of motion. Unfortunately, the statistical requirement is too weak to make (1.1)

 

by your own words you are clutching at straws are you not?

 

How was this paper accepted back in 2005 when, it was written? Are you Peter Holland, and is it your paper? It always sets alarm bells ringing; looking at the references when they are nearly all pointing to the same author, ie Peter Holland. 

 

Is the linked paper your own work ?

 

Edit https://en.wikipedia...eter_R._Holland

 

Edit the OP bears little resemblance to the paper ypu have linked to.


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#9 pittsburghjoe

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 02:06 PM

It predicts a unified theory ..what more could you want?



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Posted 05 March 2020 - 03:41 AM

It predicts a unified theory ..what more could you want?

 

The paper ts not written by you, you dont understand what it is about, and at best the paper is speculative. 

 

Your OP has little resemblance to paper you reference. 

 

People have been working towards a unified theory for a long time. I gave a couple of hints ref more advanced work in this direction, but you failed to read them. 



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Posted 05 March 2020 - 09:36 AM

Uncertainty is a quantum field property. It is built into a scattering matrix to solve a physical particles diffraction path. So uncertainty can influence an observed particles trajectory, but it can't help it tunnel because the particle is not a wave. https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/Dirac+interaction+picture


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Posted 09 March 2020 - 06:27 PM

What type of spin does a decohered wave have? Has anyone ever measured a particle in a way that allows it to continue moving on its path and then tested its spin at the end? Is it spin 0? I think wave collapse is what triggers other types of spin. Physical particles might not have a wave collapse event.



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Posted 10 March 2020 - 08:06 AM

For energy eigenstates we define <n|m>=kroneker-delta(n,m).
For some n, <n|n>=0 for n=0.

I think we are going to discover n also implies it equals spin 0
or if an energy eigenstate = 0 then so does its spin

The ground state electron will NOT have a spin half ..decohered waves all have spin 0 from start to end.

There is something very fitting about the higgs being a spin 0



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Posted 10 March 2020 - 12:03 PM

Have we tested an unobserved matter wave without a vacuum? No light, but let there be air in it. I don't think decoherence is very fragile to other free particles that are not light. It explains how tunneling can happen in our bodies.



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Posted 10 March 2020 - 06:13 PM

It predicts a unified theory ..what more could you want?

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Posted 10 March 2020 - 06:43 PM

I wasn't expecting you to understand any of it.



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Posted 11 March 2020 - 10:50 AM

Are electron orbitals always unobserved waves even with observation? That would mean they are not physical until they stop being an orbital.





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