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#1 Virtual

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 10:40 PM

Seems like I find myself hating virtually everything and everyone. I completely abandoned contemporary popular culture, music, movies, and television well over a decade ago when I was just in my early-mid teens. I haven’t consumed a single bit of it since. I did so because I found most or all of it to be vapid garbage, intentionally fabricated to be so. I regard the overwhelming percentage of what people do to be vapid garbage for that matter.

I hold a burning misanthropy in my heart that burns hotter than the hottest infernos of Hell. I’m not violent, so my hatred is not the kind which would invoke physical action of any kind, but I can’t say that I don’t wish for the worst for people.

I feel that if my country didn’t consistently double down on its brisk pace into the abyss of the new dark ages year after year, my outlook on life and humanity might be a little brighter. But it seems that evil and stupidity outbreeds goodness and intelligence in these ages of modernity and egalitarianism. Makes perfect sense when you realize how much modernity subverts the work of natural selection.

Why is it that good and pure things, which are rare and far between to begin with, always seem to die in infancy, and either get replaced by, or overhauled into, vacuous nonsense? Does the entropy principle from physics apply to human culture and societies as well? I guess it does.

Anyway, once upon a time I was naive and believed that things could be done to restore what once was, but with maturity and knowledge comes the understanding that history is a blueprint of the future. As Robert Frost wrote, “nothing gold can stay”. I’m not fighting the fight anymore. I’ve lost my soul, and with it my concern for what happens to this world.

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#2 GAHD

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 10:44 PM

http://www.orwell.ru...english/e_polit

You ever read this? It's easy to hate, it's much harder to rage against the dying of the light.



#3 VictorMedvil

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 11:10 PM

I have a very different view of humanity ever since I was young I wanted to go to space and Mars along with be Immortal, it seems this species is highly working all three thus I really love our species for doing exactly what I wanted I can't wait to be a Immortal Space Robot or Nanotechnology enhanced human in space after the singularity, Now if it doesn't happen then this species is disgusting and makes me want to destroy it for lying to me. Immortality and space I can dig that, I fully understand the want for both of those things. Humans will always be that Scientific Warrior species that I love because of lofty goals like that and I decided long ago I was going to help make it happen, while the general population is nothing more than debt slaves forced to work the people up at the top of this species have vision for the Backbone of a Interstellar empire, I guess I look at it in the terms of civilization big picture, what this species may achieve and I see a future that is powerful thus I want to add my voice to it and my own power. I respect someone that respects strength of mind,body and soul which the people up at the top mainly do. Even if it doesn't work out as long as this species achieves immortality there will be plenty of time to work it out. So, all this to say I enjoy some aspects of this species others not so much such as our apparent childishness and barbarism.


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:31 AM

This civilisation is the only one we have to go on. Having nothing to compare it to means we're free to judge it as kindly or as harshly as we want to, making any overall assessment of the world more than anything else a reflection of how we view ourselves.

Good and pure things as you put it being rare and fleeting only makes these things more beautiful and precious. Find yourself a hobby, you're on a science forum so that's a good start. I don't know what my worldview would be if I didn't have football (watching), martial arts (doing) and DMT.

DMT is the ultimate perspective changer, some people are profoundly changed for ever by it, and always for the better.


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 07:52 AM

Seems like I find myself hating virtually everything and everyone. 

I hold a burning misanthropy in my heart that burns hotter than the hottest infernos of Hell.

 

I feel that if my country didn’t consistently double down on its brisk pace into the abyss of the new dark ages year after year, my outlook on life and humanity might be a little brighter. 

 I’m not fighting the fight anymore. I’ve lost my soul, and with it my concern for what happens to this world.

 

You ask why you feel this way.  I suspect that, deep down, you know why, but don't want to confront those reasons.

 

All said and done, it's not about what's "out there" in the world.  Nor is the answer to be found in what the "country" does.  It's inside you.

 

Chances are that you have been greatly disappointed and "betrayed" by others, but even more so by yourself and/or your own actions.

 

It sounds like you could benefit from some extended assistance from psychological professionals in getting to the bottom of it all.  You sound intelligent and rational, so you would be a good candidate for certain types of psychological therapy.

 

You hold the key to your release from the misery you're experiencing.  Use it.

 

“If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself but to your own estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.”  (Marcus Aurelius)

 


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:02 AM

I have a very different view of humanity ever since I was young I wanted to go to space and Mars along with be Immortal, it seems this species is highly working all three thus I really love our species for doing exactly what I wanted I can't wait to be a Immortal Space Robot or Nanotechnology enhanced human in space after the singularity, Now if it doesn't happen then this species is disgusting and makes me want to destroy it for lying to me. Immortality and space I can dig that, I fully understand the want for both of those things. Humans will always be that Scientific Warrior species that I love because of lofty goals like that and I decided long ago I was going to help make it happen, while the general population is nothing more than debt slaves forced to work the people up at the top of this species have vision for the Backbone of a Interstellar empire, I guess I look at it in the terms of civilization big picture, what this species may achieve and I see a future that is powerful thus I want to add my voice to it and my own power. I respect someone that respects strength of mind,body and soul which the people up at the top mainly do. Even if it doesn't work out as long as this species achieves immortality there will be plenty of time to work it out. So, all this to say I enjoy some aspects of this species others not so much such as our apparent childishness and barbarism.

You and I are likely not going to agree on much.....or anything.

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:29 AM

I think I’m probably preaching to the wrong choir here.

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 09:04 AM

I think I’m probably preaching to the wrong choir here.

 

 

Yeah, you probably are. " Preaching to the choir" indicates that you only want to communicate with those who already agree with you.  Such "preachers" are not seeking understanding, they are only seeking some sort of affirmation of their prejudices, so they can continue in the comfort of "knowing" they're right.


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 09:17 AM

I've often had people come to me claiming they had problems (often of a personal nature, whether psychological or behavioral or both).

 

They say they are seeking advice.

 

But they're not. 

 

You can talk to them for hours in an attempt to help, but any and every suggestion you make which might help with their circumstances is rejected out of hand as being "impossible."

 

They don't want advice.  They don't want a "solution" to their problems.  All they really want is for someone to listen to them and agree with them.  That way they don't have to try to change anything.

 

At some level, their complaints notwithstanding, they are quite content with their alleged "problems" and don't want to change anything.


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 10:28 AM

I never said I was seeking advice. The titular question was somewhat rhetorical. I’m just pointing out that the general ideological mindset of this forum likely doesn’t match my own. I don’t believe one can have a fulfilled worldview on logic, syllogisms, and axioms alone. I long for traditionalism, spirituality, and preserving my culture and values, whereas others here are talking about their desire for a hyper-technological, post-human future free of what they call “human barbarity” and ignorance, while I hope that if anything of the sort starts to take place I’ll be long dead by then. I simply come from a different place in what I value and wish for the world to be. I feel that the further our various cultures of the world depart from their respective heritages and identities, and the more we accept the subversion and compromise of the rich ancient bonds we share, the more our societies decay into decadence and degeneracy. Hence, why I said I removed myself from contemporary culture long ago when I was still just a kid. Of course, people like myself get called “old fashioned” and our beliefs get called “outdated” and “primitive”. I don’t think an agreement can be reached between people like myself and those who’s worldview only involves materialism and naturalism. I believe that there are scientific realities, but there is also evolved spirituality in our various cultures. I think once we abandon those ideals, we lose something very important to who we are.

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 11:12 AM

I never said I was seeking advice. The titular question was somewhat rhetorical. 

 

OK.  I gave my best answer to your question, which could be all wrong.  But I thought you were asking.

 

I simply come from a different place in what I value and wish for the world to be.

 

 

This is not intended as "advice," but just as an observation.  It appears to me that you have unrealistic expectations and/or a strong streak of idealistic perfectionism.

 

The world aint what any of us "wish it to be."  That doesn't change the world.  You can't change the world, even if you want to.  Either you can or can't accept that "the world" is what it is.  Either way, you proceed accordingly.

 

You say you are world-weary, beaten, and unwilling to fight.  So you're getting what you want--you quit.

 

But why did you quit?  Can't you do something to improve your own personal sense of well-being, the existence of an imperfect world notwithstanding?


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 12:47 PM

OK. I gave my best answer to your question, which could be all wrong. But I thought you were asking.


This is not intended as "advice," but just as an observation. It appears to me that you have unrealistic expectations and/or a strong streak of idealistic perfectionism.

The world aint what any of us "wish it to be." That doesn't change the world. You can't change the world, even if you want to. Either you can or can't accept that "the world" is what it is. Either way, you proceed accordingly.

You say you are world-weary, beaten, and unwilling to fight. So you're getting what you want--you quit.

But why did you quit? Can't you do something to improve your own personal sense of well-being, the existence of an imperfect world notwithstanding?

I just think the loss of tradition, religion, and national/cultural identity is opening the door for decay and degeneracy. And we can’t do a damn thing to stop it and preserve some semblance of our culture and values because we are told that we are hateful if we don’t unequivocally accept any and every major shift in zeitgeist, values, and priority being inflicted on our nations. That’s all.

But I’ll probably stop there because if I elaborate further I’ll probably have like five different fart-sniffing, secular, know-it-all “skeptics” coming at me on here with their empty syllogisms trying to show me how smart they are and how stupid I am because they can make conclusions from observable, naturalistic premises.

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 01:05 PM

And we can’t do a damn thing to stop it and preserve some semblance of our culture and values because we are told that we are hateful if we don’t unequivocally accept any and every major shift in zeitgeist, values, and priority being inflicted on our nations. That’s all.
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Because we're told?  In response to this, I'll just repeat the quote I posted before:

 

“If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself but to your own estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.”  (Marcus Aurelius)

 

 

It sounds like you are reluctant to speak your mind and openly act in accordance with your own values because you fear disapproval and rejection.  Who cares?  Your own integrity is much more important than what other people think.  You cannot be authentic and free if have you allowed yourself to be enslaved by the (non-existent) "force" applied by the opinions of others.


Edited by Moronium, 21 March 2019 - 01:09 PM.


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:31 PM

Because we're told? In response to this, I'll just repeat the quote I posted before:


It sounds like you are reluctant to speak your mind and openly act in accordance with your own values because you fear disapproval and rejection. Who cares? Your own integrity is much more important than what other people think. You cannot be authentic and free if have you allowed yourself to be enslaved by the (non-existent) "force" applied by the opinions of others.

Idk man. I’m just confused. Upset. Not depressed or suicidal. I’m okay. Just don’t really know what to think anymore. I’m just an ignorant redneck. The world and it’s various shenanigans are above my head. I suppose I should just shut up and go back to being a hick, huh?

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:51 PM

Idk man. I’m just confused. Upset. Not depressed or suicidal. I’m okay. Just don’t really know what to think anymore. I’m just an ignorant redneck. The world and it’s various shenanigans are above my head. I suppose I should just shut up and go back to being a hick, huh?

 

Well what I've been trying to suggest, for what it's worth, is to concentrate on yourself rather than "The world and it’s various shenanigans."  Whether it's above your head or not, as you say, there's very little you can do about it.  You can still do a lot for yourself if you care to though.

 

If you're a "hick" (not saying you are) then be a hick.  Be what you are and don't worry about convincing others that you're something you're not.  It is very dangerous to rely on the the opinions of others for a sense of worth.  It's only a sense of self-worth that counts, really.

 

I may be wrong, but, like I said, it seems to me that you are partially paralyzed by the desire to maintain the approval of others. To hell with others.  Just be what you are, and be proud of it. Be true to yourself.  Be true to your own sincere values, regardless of what anyone else thinks or does.  You don't have to be perfect to be a perfectly acceptable human being. 

 

And the same goes for others.  Maybe you're too quick to shun them because of their inevitable imperfections.


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:56 PM

Well what I've been trying to suggest, for what it's worth, is to concentrate on yourself rather than "The world and it’s various shenanigans." Whether it's above your head or not, as you say, there's very little you can do about it. You can still do a lot for yourself if you care to though.

If you're a "hick" (not saying you are) then be a hick. Be what you are and don't worry about convincing others that you're something you're not. It is very dangerous to rely on the the opinions of others for a sense of worth. It's only a sense of self-worth that counts, really.

I may be wrong, but, like I said, it seems to me that you are partially paralyzed by the desire to maintain the approval of others. To hell with others. Just be what you are, and be proud of it. Be true to yourself. Be true to your own sincere values, regardless of what anyone else thinks or does. You don't have to be perfect to be a perfectly acceptable human being.

And the same goes for others. Maybe you're too quick to shun them because of their inevitable imperfections.

You want to know the funny thing about us rednecks from the south. We constantly get trashed as dangerous, racist, homophobic, gun-nut hicks, but really, we aren’t trying to change other people or convert them to our way of life. Most of us just want to be left alone with our guns, our land, and our culture.

But it seems that we can’t just bask in our escapism anymore. Some of our government seems to think they have the right to abolish our self-determination, remove our freedom of speech and association, disenfranchise us, and undermine our values.

This is why I mentioned that I’m upset by the forced shift in ethnic and cultural composition of this country. It is no secret that high-trust societies begin with shared values, and often, shared blood. I don’t hate or begrudge a single human being on this planet, but damnit enough is enough with the designed invasion on my country and culture.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:01 PM

I don’t think it’s possible to hate all of existence. I think you need to see a therapist. In the meantime, try to think of all the things that are positive in your life and find some gems in the coal.