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Gahd, I should make it clear that my hate for the US is all about it's foreign policy. You know as well as I that the US has run roughshod over 40 small countries with it's wars of aggression since WW2 alone. And it's not stopping even now because Venezuela and Iran are on it's list. Surely Shirley, this is reason enough for any reasonably informed Canadian to side against the US. Are you even reasonably informed? Could a reasonbly intelligent lad like you not be aware of the US motive for wanting to go to war with Venezuela?

 

What has humanity come to?

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Gahd, I should make it clear that my hate for the US is all about it's foreign policy. You know as well as I that the US has run roughshod over 40 small countries with it's wars of aggression since WW2 alone. And it's not stopping even now because Venezuela and Iran are on it's list. Surely Shirley, this is reason enough for any reasonably informed Canadian to side against the US. Are you even reasonably informed? Could a reasonbly{sic} intelligent lad like you not be aware of the US motive for wanting to go to war with Venezuela?

 

What has humanity come to?

The irony that you're misdirecting that hatred onto the president who has scaled back their war complex is darkly hilarious. You really need to read the wiki on what a fact is again (and again and again) until you can separate illusory truth from bias.

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I'm o.k. with the term socialist but: You still don't understand me even though I have repeatedly told you that I, and we Canadians aren't socialists. We're capitalists who promote social responsibility in government. Please!

 

If Trump wasn't resorting to foul play to MAGA then I would call him a socially responsible capitalist too. But unfortunately, and obviously Trump is trying to save the US's sorry a-s with foul play and dirty tricks that are going to bring his country down instead of hold the US's position of power in the world.

 

And now, after having said that, you can go back to some of the details I provided on how Trump is alienating his allies as well as those who are considered the  US's enemies. 

 

Do you have any understanding of world politics at all? Do you understand how Russia is playing Trump? Likely because Russia/Putin has some goods on Trump that Trump doesn't want revealed. The Steele documents are a great example.

 

The irony of it all is Gahd, both of us want to see Trump continue now. He's making it easier for both China and Russia to increase their power as the US power diminishes. 

 

Ask me about the details some time. I have a lot more than I gave you a few posts back.

 

Frankly, I support Trump in what he is doing he is trying to protect the United States and West from the influences of other nations that may seek to destroy or harm these people with Advancements in Nuclear Weaponry along with military equipment. In the Civilian Sector he is attempting to stop illegal immigration with his wall and promote Nuclear Power around the World as a Green solution and Coal/Natural Gas that has profitable outcomes. Personally, I like my Country's current president as he seem to do as he says unlike many other politicians in the United States, furthermore he finished the ISIS war and made a Deal with Russia,Syria, and Iran for peaceful control of Syria. He is not only a friend to his own people but NATO and even Russia/China. He has even the respect of North Korea dealing with them in a positive light and regulating their nuclear program. Another good thing about Trump is he has stopped the trade deficit if you don't know what I am talking about then you don't live in the United States but basically everything is made in China and all our jobs are going out of the country because of lack of proper tariffs on other countries for imports, Trump has redefined trade to stop that. He has put up a better defense of the "NATO" Powers than Obama from Economic,Military, and Social Influences for all the things said bad about Trump he is turning out to be a great president to the United States not rivaled since Reagan, He can see things in the proper way and solve the problem frankly I like a President like that. If all we have to do is let Trump build his 5 or 6 billion dollar wall to continue to have him as President I would be happy to help him see that wall built, that is a cheap price to pay for a good president that will fix this country over 4 to 8 years while making the United States Trillions of dollars. Trump had me sold as a scientist at Antimatter Tactical Bombs and Mini Tactical Nuclear Missiles, Link = https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/28/us-nuclear-weapons-first-low-yield-warheads-roll-off-the-production-line

 

 

Ever since 2017 I loved whatever Trump is doing, who can say no to Antimatter bombs.

 

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The irony that you're misdirecting that hatred onto the president who has scaled back their war complex is darkly hilarious. You really need to read the wiki on what a fact is again (and again and again) until you can separate illusory truth from bias.

Trump is certainly aware that he needs to promote the illusion you're speaking of, but in fact he's not. I visit antiwar.com every day to find the proof in what I say. But I'm content to lay the blame on their (your) government or your president, whatever way you and Moronium prefer it. 

 

I see it as the equivalent of Hitler claiming innocence by blaming his government. 

 

Can you at least substantiate any of your claims that Trump has done anything to scale back the war complex? I can give you lots of evidence that it continues to escalate to even more dangerous levels under Trump.

 

Should we talk about the North Korea example?

 

Visit antiwar.com and educate yourself a bit before you go off halpcocked with your baloney again. 

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Should we talk about the North Korea example?

 

 

Why talk about North Korea?  They give us any more crap and the country will cease to exist.  Just like when the "war-mongering" USA "attacked" Japan, in 1941, ya know?

 

Hello, Hiroshima.

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Why talk about North Korea?  They give us any more crap and the country will cease to exist.  Just like when the "war-mongering" USA "attacked" Japan, in 1941, ya know?

 

Hello, Hiroshima.

The trouble with your tough talk is that if the US is responsible for causing N.K. to cease to exist, the US also substantially ceases to exist too. The days of the US even contemplating that sort of aggression are probably over Moronium. 

 

I say probably because there is still a question of whether or not China and Russia have Maduro's back? The US has lost Syria and Iran and there's a good possibility that it will also lose Venezuela. 

 

Do you think that the US will resort to the use of nuclear weapons in the foreseeable future? Could the US go nuclear against either Iran or N.K. and keep it to a limited and regional use of nukes? 

 

I know your tough talk is just pretend and make believe Moronium but I can't pass up the opportunity to make use of it. So do you?

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Moronium raises the question of WW2 being the US's good war or justifiable war. The issue deserves a full and honest conversation because the question is very much alive in the minds of many Americans. Especially the libertarian faction! 

 

And, no doubt, your commie-azz view is that the US was totally unjustified in retaliating against Japan.  Make your case for that, if you think you have one.

 

I have a feeling that you would never accuse Stalin of the same when Russia defended itself against Hitler's attack, though, eh?

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Do you think that the US will resort to the use of nuclear weapons in the foreseeable future? Could the US go nuclear against either Iran or N.K. and keep it to a limited and regional use of nukes? 

 

 

If we were forced to nuke (or anti-matter) N.K off the map, Russia and China would just learn to like it.  They have no other choice. Oh, sure, they would condemn it for a few weeks.  So what?

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If we were forced to nuke (or anti-matter) N.K off the map, Russia and China would just learn to like it.  They have no other choice. Oh, sure, they would condemn it for a few weeks.  So what?

You're ignoring the fact that the US has been held at bay for 75 years. Vietnam was lost to the US because of it's fear of MAD. I would suggest that so is Iran and so was Cuba lost. 

 

But I'm always anxious to consider your argument on why the US might resort to a regional war with the limited use of nuclear weapons. However, to be realistic you would have to argue on a different country than N.K. 

 

There could be a reasonable argument presented on how the US could contemplate the use of limited nuclear war against Iran. But keeping in mind that it would very much endanger the apatheid regime. Nulcear or conventional in the case of Iran's response.

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Trump is certainly aware that he needs to promote the illusion you're speaking of, but in fact he's not. I visit antiwar.com every day to find the proof in what I say. But I'm content to lay the blame on their (your) government or your president, whatever way you and Moronium prefer it. 

 

I see it as the equivalent of Hitler claiming innocence by blaming his government. 

 

Can you at least substantiate any of your claims that Trump has done anything to scale back the war complex? I can give you lots of evidence that it continues to escalate to even more dangerous levels under Trump.

 

Should we talk about the North Korea example?

 

Visit antiwar.com and educate yourself a bit before you go off halpcocked with your baloney again. 

MM you do fail to retain information: It's not my government, I'm Canadian. We've had this talk before; you don't care about facts do you?

 

I am honestly considering finding a southern belle to woo and bride if the libtards or cuntservatives screw up our laws much more, though! Maybe the USA will actually be "my" government in the future. 'Till then, kindly keep your personal attacks valid. Read it again, and again, and again. Because you fail to get it it, demonstrably, and constantly. If some of the other mods and admins we used to have were still active (irony; from Norway, Sweden, and a hardcore Democrat from the south) they wouldn't be so patient with your lies and libel and have probably banned you off long ago. Luckily for you I have a policy of recusal when there's a conflict of interest.

 

Checked the little media outlet you asked me to. Not convinced. Maybe if you expanded your sphere of information beyond a single source? You seem to be making the same mistake zelots often do: "One book is all I need."

 

substantiate: How many new countries have been attacked since the cheeto got into office? How many new countries were bombed under Obama? How many new under Bush? How many new under Clinton?

AFAICT Trump is trying to finish what the 3 before him started. Ruthlessly finish it, but finish it none the less. He's unfettered the militaries to get the existing bloody work over with, but he's most def going out of his way to avoid expansion of conflict. If you're fighting with someone you don't do them a thousand light wounds, you END IT so that you can move on.

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And, no doubt, your commie-azz view is that the US was totally unjustified in retaliating against Japan.  Make your case for that, if you think you have one.

 

I have a feeling that you would never accuse Stalin of the same when Russia defended itself against Hitler's attack, though, eh?

If we were to have an in-depth discussion on the US's legitimacy in going to war with Japan, we would have to take a close look at what the US was doing to harm Japan before the Pearl Harbour incident.

 

Ask me if you are interested in learning.

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MM you do fail to retain information: It's not my government, I'm Canadian. We've had this talk before; you don't care about facts do you?

 

I am honestly considering finding a southern belle to woo and bride if the libtards or cuntservatives screw up our laws much more, though! Maybe the USA will actually be "my" government in the future. 'Till then, kindly keep your personal attacks valid. Read it again, and again, and again. Because you fail to get it it, demonstrably, and constantly. If some of the other mods and admins we used to have were still active (irony; from Norway, Sweden, and a hardcore Democrat from the south) they wouldn't be so patient with your lies and libel and have probably banned you off long ago. Luckily for you I have a policy of recusal when there's a conflict of interest.

 

Checked the little media outlet you asked me to. Not convinced. Maybe if you expanded your sphere of information beyond a single source? You seem to be making the same mistake zelots often do: "One book is all I need."

 

substantiate: How many new countries have been attacked since the cheeto got into office? How many new countries were bombed under Obama? How many new under Bush? How many new under Clinton?

AFAICT Trump is trying to finish what the 3 before him started. Ruthlessly finish it, but finish it none the less. He's unfettered the militaries to get the existing bloody work over with, but he's most def going out of his way to avoid expansion of conflict. If you're fighting with someone you don't do them a thousand light wounds, you END IT so that you can move on.

I have persistent doubts about you being a Canadian. I can give you several reasons why.. 

 

Why on earth could a Canadian continue to support the US's psychopath president? What is your hurting all about Gahd?

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I have persistent doubts about you being a Canadian. I can give you several reasons why.. 

 

Why on earth could a Canadian continue to support the US's psychopath president? What is your hurting all about Gahd?

Your reasons don't trump facts though(see what I did there?) as I am Canadian born and raised. ;) I've told you why i don't buy tabloid lies, ironically you haven't elucidated your own reasons for being more interested in president spray tan's actions than those of PM Dressup and his fashionable opinion police. One of them has direct consequences for your your life and liberty after all, though both of them are probably gropers. You ready for our next April Fools tax? Were you worried at all about the Compelled Speech acts or the changes to your own priority as creditor to your own money in a bank account? Do you know half as much about our own country and it's recent problems as you claim to know about our southern neighbor?

I have reason to doubt all the above about you, particularly because of your repeated and demonstrable lies and inability to source a fact to support your opinion-editorial-fed positions. Somehow I think that's more important than your silly regressions and thinly veiled hostility. Be better, or forever be type 2 fodder.

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If we were to have an in-depth discussion on the US's legitimacy in going to war with Japan, we would have to take a close look at what the US was doing to harm Japan before the Pearl Harbour incident.

 

Ask me if you are interested in learning.

 

 

"Harming" Japan?  By refusing to export oil to them until they quit butchering civilians all over China, and Asia in general, you mean?  Of course they were quite justified in their sneak attack,  and we should have immediately surrendered and helped with their rape of China, right, Commie?

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Your reasons don't trump facts though(see what I did there?) as I am Canadian born and raised. ;) I've told you why i don't buy tabloid lies, ironically you haven't elucidated your own reasons for being more interested in president spray tan's actions than those of PM Dressup and his fashionable opinion police. One of them has direct consequences for your your life and liberty after all, though both of them are probably gropers. You ready for our next April Fools tax? Were you worried at all about the Compelled Speech acts or the changes to your own priority as creditor to your own money in a bank account? Do you know half as much about our own country and it's recent problems as you claim to know about our southern neighbor?

I have reason to doubt all the above about you, particularly because of your repeated and demonstrable lies and inability to source a fact to support your opinion-editorial-fed positions. Somehow I think that's more important than your silly regressions and thinly veiled hostility. Be better, or forever be type 2 fodder.

So now I learn the truth. You were born a Canadian and you've been leading to believe all along that you're still a Canadian. What motivated you to be dishonest?

 

I believe that my (our) P.M. is much like his father a socially responsible individual, who was much more leftist than his party. Justin has given us several indications of that being so but he's obliged to act as a middle of the road politician to suit the Liberal party's priorities. That is, not too much left of the Cons. 

 

There's obviously no political ideology in Canadian politics to suit your extremism but there's little doubt you will support the Cons if you're living in Canada at election time.

 

Otherwise, I'm not really interested anymore in guessing which country you're living in presently. You seem to have a motive to lie about it for some reason?

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