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#1 HouseKnight1

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 08:09 PM

The whole anti-Semitic world accuses us for allegedly driving the Palestinians out of the places where we Jews now live. However, a detailed study of documents of that time shows that before and during the War of Independence, most of Palestinians were evacuated on the direct order of their leader, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al Husseini. In some places (for example, in Tiberias), the Arabs were evacuated in an organized manner by the British, who remained in Palestine until May 1948.
In 1946, after a seven-year gap, the Palestinians were again led by Haj Amin al Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hitler’s friend and Nazi criminal. Before that, he was imprisoned in France and was to stand before the court in Nuremberg.Suddenly, on the order of President de Gaulle himself, Amin was released from detention. He was given a villa with a set of servants for the upper class, but was forbidden to leave France. After which he «suddenly disappeared» from France and showed up in Cairo, just flying on a regular flight. So the French and British officials, delivered to the Palestinians their Nazi leader, Haj Amin al Husseini.
The Palestinians knew that their leader was preparing to destroy all Jews in the entire Middle East. Yes, he considered himself the leader of all Muslims and claimed power over the entire Middle East. Hitler decided to check whether his claims were justified. He instructed the mufti to form two combat divisions in Bosnia. Instead of two divisions, the mufti hardly managed to score one.
It is known that at that time some Arab nationalists showed solidarity with those Jews who actively fought against Britain. British officials, politicians and intelligence have been puzzled over how to stop the growing wave of Arab nationalism and Islamic «social» fundamentalism, ideologized by Hassan al Banna.
The then colonial empires, Great Britain and France, clung to the colonies escaping from their hands. They tried to keep control of them at all costs. In this case, in the Middle East, they expected to distract the wrath of Muslims, outraged by foreign dominion, by the traditional Muslim object, the Jews. They use the traditional Islamist enmity toward the Jews, they also wanted to divert the wrath of the Arab nationalists.
It was their traditional «divide and rule» policy.
As for the Grand Mufti himself, the service of Hitler (in the rank of Obersturmbannfuhrer) was a stepping stone to power over the entire Middle East. Then he tried to do the same with the help of the britons, and when that failed, he initiated the creation of a world-wide organization called the Islamic Conference, now numbering 57 states. With his great plans, what were the Palestinians to him? He did not consider the Palestinians a separate people. From his point of view, they were only a step, relying on which he wanted to climb to the top of the World Caliphate.
Yes, many Muslims of Palestine could not imagine that part of them would live in Israel, under the rule of Jews. They responded to the call of their mufti to go to the safe zone, occupied by the Arabs from the beginning of 1948. Of course, they expected to return soon, because the Arab armies had already moved closer to the borders of Palestine.
The army of Jordan entered Judea and Samaria in January 1948. At the same time, a 7,000-strong group of thugs («volunteers») recruited in the Arab countries entered Galilee and Samaria. It was their commander Kawukji who promised to «throw the Jews into the sea». The British military did not interfere when the thugs of Kawukji crossed the Jordan River on Allenby Bridge.
Under the command of Amin al Husseini, there were 55,000 armed Palestinian militants, mostly in local squads. Such squads existed in every Palestinian village. An armed Arab adventurers from neighboring Arab countries entered the urban Arab districts. All, including the Palestinians themselves, considered Palestine to be part of a single Arab homeland, which the British and French colonialists divided into parts.
In 1948, the Jews of Palestine, for the first time in the last thousand years, provided armed resistance to attacks from Muslims. Nobody was used to this new phenomenon. Contrary to the expectations of the mufti, the brave (in words) Palestinian militants, remaining without the cover of British forces, began to suffer defeats in direct clashes with Jewish self-defense. And then the Mufti and the British decided at any cost to involve the neighboring Arab states in the conflict in Palestine.
In February 1948, the mufti ordered militants to establish a blockade of Jewish cities, and Ben Gurion, after a long period of «restraint», was forced to issue an order for the offensive. So the mufti ordered the evacuation of the Arab inhabitants from the coastal plain. Most of all, the situation did not suit him when his compatriots would agree to live peacefully in a Jewish state.
The well-known Israeli historian Benny Morris reports that during negotiations with the commander of the Jewish forces, the leaders of the Arabs of Haifa refused to stop the organized evacuation of the Arabs from the city. They explained to the commander of the Hagana brigade Moshe Carmel that they received an order from Amin al Husseini to evacuate all the Arabs from the cit, and they do not dare to disobey the orders of the Grand Mufti. 
To destroy the Jews of Palestine, the Nazis organized in 1942, in Athens, the «Einsatzgruppe Aegypten», which was commanded by Walter Rauff, the inventor of the death cars. 
Let’s recall that at the same time the Grand Mufti assembled the Islamic army (division Hanjar) in Bosnia. Finally, the Middle East campaign of Hitler was stopped because of the defeat on other fronts.
In 1946, the British organized and trained two groups of Egyptian Muslim brothers. In 1948, together with the forces of the Egyptian army, these detachments entered Negev, but did not take part in hostilities. 
Why did British intelligence send the Grand Mufti in 1946 to the Middle East? Everything indicates that the British, along with their old-new ally Amin al Husseini, sought the genocide of Jews, to bind the Arabs and Muslims. Stalin and the American administration wanted to oust Britain and France from their sphere of influence. Stalin opposed the plans of the genocide of the Jews and supported Israel with weapons. 
So, the British planned a new Holocaust of Jews in Palestine. The British army was not fit to carry out such a task, as the commander of the forces in Palestine resolutely stated. Just the Islamists were good for such a task. Therefore, the Great Mufti was rescued from the court, and therefore the British began to equip the Muslim Brotherhood. For the same reason, British threw the regimes dependent on them in Egypt, Jordan and Iraq, to the war, and provided them with support. 
For the same reason, Amin al Husseini ordered the withdrawal of Palestinian civilians from Israel, leaving on the battlefield only fighters and thugs capable of massacres. The Grand Mufti explained that if their families were safe, the militants would become «bolder» (according to Benny Morris). 
Then Islamist Al Husseini needed the Nakba to convince the peoples and governments of Arab countries of the need for armed intervention. In addition, he wanted to prevent the coexistence of Jews and Arabs within the framework of one state, especially a Jewish state. Vice versa, Ben Gurion aspired to this kind of coexistence.
The Egyptian government decided to invade five days before the expiry of the British mandate. Syria ranted about the war, but never invaded Israeli territory. Trans-Jordan and Iraq occupied the territory of the West Bank, the Lebanese army invaded Galilee, and the Egyptian forces occupied the whole of the Negev, Gaza, and approached Jerusalem, occupying 60% of the territory designated to Israel.
The flight of the Palestinians continued after the outbreak of a full-scale war, too. At this stage Ben Gurion no longer «restrained.» If, before May 15, the Jews asked the Palestinians to stay in their places (remember Moshe Karmel’s talks in Haifa, and his order on the safety of the abandoned property and especially the mosques), then after the entry of Arab states into the war, Ben Gurion ordered to blow up abandoned Arab homes, especially in those places, where the hostile, armed population could contribute to the armies of the aggressor (according to Benny Morris).
Moreover, in Ramla and Lod, the IDF carried out «ethnic cleansing» of the belligerent Arab population of these cities. Without such «cleansing», local Arabs and the army of Jordan could keep these strategically important points, cutting off the roads to the front in Jerusalem and the Negev. I recall that the Geneva Convention on the Protection of Civilians was adopted a year after the events described. At that time no one knew that such actions would soon be recognized as a war crime. In a view of a new genocide threatening the Jews of Israel, the Israeli government took the actions that were necessary to save the state and the people. You cannot see this as a malicious goal. 
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So, the Palestinians believed their leader that they should leave their homes temporarily, and that soon they would return to their cities and villages «cleansed of Jewish filth.» The result is known.
Of course, the Palestinian people now understand the «crap» that the Islamic leader, together with the European colonialists, has drawn into them. To this day, the Palestinians do not want to give up their revenge. Meanwhile, there are no conditions for a rematch. Jewish refugees from Europe and the Middle East came to the place instead of evacuated Palestinians.

EUROPE, GRAND MUFTI AND THEIR NAKBA



#2 A-wal

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Posted 20 September 2018 - 06:09 AM

The injustice of Israel's actions against the Palestinian people should not be tolerated by the international community. Your pathetic attempts to justify the atrocities of your nation are disgusting. People like you are why antisemitism exists.



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Posted 28 September 2018 - 11:09 PM

The injustice of Israel's actions against the Palestinian people should not be tolerated by the international community. Your pathetic attempts to justify the atrocities of your nation are disgusting. People like you are why antisemitism exists.

Practically, I have re-iterated historic facts. The anti-Semitism does exist, but not because of the Jews. It exists because of anti-Semites, including Palestinian anti-Semites. You continue to label Jewish self-defense as "atrocities". Recently I visited the Warsaw ghetto (or what remains from Warsaw Ghetto, since its territory was re-built with sky-scrapers). From Your point of view, the Ghetto rebellion was as a criminal, as Israel's War of Independence. Defending the Jews from genocide is "atrocity".



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Posted 29 September 2018 - 05:58 PM

Practically, I have re-iterated historic facts.

No you've twisted historical half truths to fit your own biased narrative.

 

The anti-Semitism does exist, but not because of the Jews.

Utter bullshit!

 

It exists because of anti-Semites, including Palestinian anti-Semites.

Obviously.

 

You continue to label Jewish self-defense as "atrocities".

I continue to label Israeli atrocities as atrocities.

 

Recently I visited the Warsaw ghetto (or what remains from Warsaw Ghetto, since its territory was re-built with sky-scrapers).

Good for you.

 

From Your point of view, the Ghetto rebellion was as a criminal, as Israel's War of Independence.

That rebellion was against Nazi invaders and is equivalent to Palestinians rebelling against the Israeli occupation forces.

 

Defending the Jews from genocide is "atrocity".

No, what Israel is in the process of doing to the Palestinians is an atrocity that should have been stopped a long time ago.



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Posted 17 October 2018 - 06:01 AM

No you've twisted historical half truths to fit your own biased narrative.

 

Utter bullshit!

 

Obviously.

 

I continue to label Israeli atrocities as atrocities.

 

Good for you.

 

That rebellion was against Nazi invaders and is equivalent to Palestinians rebelling against the Israeli occupation forces.

 

No, what Israel is in the process of doing to the Palestinians is an atrocity that should have been stopped a long time ago.

The Palestinians continue their aggression, taking into account worldwide antisemitic support for "Palestinian cause". You personally also take responsibility for the continued bloodshed between the Jews and Palestinians.



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Posted 17 October 2018 - 10:22 AM

The Palestinians continue their aggression, taking into account worldwide antisemitic support for "Palestinian cause". You personally also take responsibility for the continued bloodshed between the Jews and Palestinians.

Here's an example, right? https://www.independ...f-a8588466.html



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Posted 17 October 2018 - 10:47 AM

The Palestinians continue their aggression, taking into account worldwide antisemitic support for "Palestinian cause". You personally also take responsibility for the continued bloodshed between the Jews and Palestinians.

It's obvious to anyone with an ounce of human decency who are the victims in this instance. The only ones responsible are Israelis committing illegal and immoral atrocities against the Palestinians.

Those that stand up for the truth and support the Palestinian cause are in no way responsible for Israel being a bunch of complete dicks! There should be a joint international military response against Israel, there should have been ages ago.

There are two sides that both have a legitimate case of being the wronged party in most conflicts. This is by no stretch of the imagination one of those cases, these are disgusting acts of pure evil by a disgusting nation that should be ashamed of itself but doesn't have the common sense or common decency to see that it's even doing anything wrong. They need to be stopped.

 

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Oh and if you think those that show support for the Palestinians "take responsibility for the continued bloodshed between the Jews and Palestinians" then the same must also be true of those that show support for Israel, unless you're a disgusting piece of hypocritical filth of course.


Edited by A-wal, 17 October 2018 - 10:59 AM.


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Posted 17 October 2018 - 12:01 PM

It's obvious to anyone with an ounce of human decency who are the victims in this instance. The only ones responsible are Israelis committing illegal and immoral atrocities against the Palestinians.

Those that stand up for the truth and support the Palestinian cause are in no way responsible for Israel being a bunch of complete dicks! There should be a joint international military response against Israel, there should have been ages ago.

There are two sides that both have a legitimate case of being the wronged party in most conflicts. This is by no stretch of the imagination one of those cases, these are disgusting acts of pure evil by a disgusting nation that should be ashamed of itself but doesn't have the common sense or common decency to see that it's even doing anything wrong. They need to be stopped.

 

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Oh and if you think those that show support for the Palestinians "take responsibility for the continued bloodshed between the Jews and Palestinians" then the same must also be true of those that show support for Israel, unless you're a disgusting piece of hypocritical filth of course.

For 70 years or more Jews/Israel suffer persecutions and deadly threats from antisemitic powers, like Nazi Germany, USSR, British Empire, Arab League, islamists of all sorts etc. The Palestinians misused all these threats with the purpose to perform genocide of the Jews. Their current hope is Iran supported by Russia and Europe. There will be no peace between Israel and Palestinians until these antisemitic threats will disappear. Your support for Palestinian Cause is one of main reasons for bloodshed and war.



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Posted 17 October 2018 - 03:24 PM

There will be no peace between Israel and Palestinians until either Israel decide stop taking over Palestinian areas and destroying their homes (something they're already shown they're not willing to do) or until they're stopped, something that should have already happened and hopefully will very soon.

 

It's no good trying to reason with these people because they simply aren't reasonable people, they're vicious, evil scumbags. Look at HouseKnight for example, he isn't an exception, he's the rule. He pretty much typifies Israeli attitude and mentality, this really is what they're like.

 

People like him are good because they show the world Israel's true face, in all its ugly and disgusting glory. People should show support for the Palestinians because what they're being subjected to by these grotesque 'people' is horrendous.



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Posted 20 October 2018 - 01:17 AM

Here's an example, right? https://www.independ...f-a8588466.html

The case of demolishing village was considered by Israeli High Court. The Bedouin settled land that they had no right to possess. According to local (Ottoman) law, the settlers are entitled to obtain state land under condition that they cultivate land, and that was not the case. Khan al Ahmar settlement was established in the desert zone with tiny ecologic conditions. These (Arab) settlers have rejected alternative proposals and finally were evicted from the place they captured without approval. This media bias is an example of antisemitic brainwashing based on ignorance of propaganda receivers.

 

There are numerous cases of Bedouin settlers on the state land in Israel, too. Sincerely, there are hundreds of similar "wild" Bedouin settlements inside 1967 Israel border. The government tries to solve Bedouin problem by development, education and re-settling to larger villages and towns. The largest of new-built Bedouin towns is Rahat, in Gaza vicinity. Until now, Hamas haven't batter Rahat.


Edited by HouseKnight1, 20 October 2018 - 10:28 AM.


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Posted 17 November 2018 - 01:22 PM

Supporting Israel, Stalin «drove a wedge» in relations between the United States and Great Britain and in relations between the United States and Arab countries. According to the testimony of Sudoplatov, Stalin foresaw that the Arab countries would later turn in the direction of the Soviet Union, disillusioned with the British and Americans because of their support for Israel. Molotov’s assistant, Mikhail Vetrov, recited Stalin’s words to Sudoplatov:

“Let’s agree with the creation of Israel. It will be like an awl in the *** for the Arab states and will force them turn their back on Britain. Ultimately, British influence will be completely undermined in Egypt, Syria, Turkey and Iraq. ”

Stalin’s foreign policy forecast was largely justified. In the Arab and many other Muslim countries, the influence of not only Britain, but also the United States was undermined.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 01:44 PM

Trump's predecessors humiliated America groveling before Saudis. Obama kissed the hemline of the galabia of Saudi king, while Bush kissed lips of the same king. In another hand, America is forced to guard the Gulf oil before Russia and Iran. Until Saudi Arabia is the master of Gulf oil, the USA must support Saudis against Russia and Iran. That is, Trump must talk to Saudis.





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