hazelm Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 Victor, I confess to not understanding much of this or your fuel but thought it might be of interest - space craft thrusters that use charged particles as fuel. (quote): The study of whistlers from space could aid in the development of practical plasma technologies with magnetic fields, including space craft thrusters that use charged particles as fuel...The thrusters use electricity to propel plasma to extremely high speeds faster than a chemical rocket. (unquote) I know. Far into the future. Just hoped it would be of interest. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180814140507.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil2 Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) Victor, I confess to not understanding much of this or your fuel but thought it might be of interest - space craft thrusters that use charged particles as fuel. (quote): The study of whistlers from space could aid in the development of practical plasma technologies with magnetic fields, including space craft thrusters that use charged particles as fuel...The thrusters use electricity to propel plasma to extremely high speeds faster than a chemical rocket. (unquote) I know. Far into the future. Just hoped it would be of interest. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180814140507.htm Why thank you my thruster design does exactly this, it will be applied to the plasma thrusters, but the by products of Fusion and Fission are being used as the fuel for the thrusters, Superheated Plasma of Helium 4 and Water, which this method could be applied to. Edited August 15, 2018 by VictorMedvil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAHD Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 Ion thrusters aren't really "far into the future" and you just described a slightly higher-energy ion thruster...Still, kicking it up a notch into higher-energy realms could be useful. Not sure about the return-on investment to specific impulse, and the torquing effect described might very well make it useless. Still cool read.I hear SAFIRE is finding some neat things with plasma research. Most of their predetermined EU stuff reads like hokum to me, but I can't deny some of the refinements of plasma theory they're working on. I DO wish I could find copies of their hard data, though. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazelm Posted August 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 Why thank you my thruster design does exactly this, it will be applied to the plasma thrusters, but the by products of Fusion and Fission are being used as the fuel for the thrusters, Superheated Plasma of Helium 4 and Water, which this method could be applied to."by products of fusion and fission"? I'll look at your thread in a minute. Were chemicals somehow involved? Or not chemicals but pure elements? Is this different from the particles that the article mentions using? I can just hear ExChemist saying "why didn't you study physics?". Sorry, Exchemist. I was busy reading Tale of Two Cities and that was deep enough. Had to read it twice. A good dose of history helped. On with the ship, Victor, and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil2 Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) "by products of fusion and fission"? I'll look at your thread in a minute. Were chemicals somehow involved? Or not chemicals but pure elements? Is this different from the particles that the article mentions using? or I can just hear ExChemist saying "why didn't you study physics?". Sorry, Exchemist. I was busy reading Tale of Two Cities and that was deep enough. Had to read it twice. A good dose of history helped. On with the ship, Victor, and good luck. Nuclear Reactions were used to produce those products which would have great pressure at 4 Billion kelvin or hotter. No Chemical reactions purely nuclear reactions. Edited August 15, 2018 by VictorMedvil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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