# Propulsion System With A Mathematical Problem.

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### #1 obliqueweaponsfb

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 09:17 PM

What you do is have a magnetic field and an electric field inside the centre. When they hit each other movement may happen.

The mathematical problem says that at different distances/rates it can start oscillating.

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### #2 GAHD

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 12:38 AM

you mean this guy?
https://www.forbes.c...-is-impossible/

### #3 obliqueweaponsfb

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 01:30 AM

I come up with the idea 10 years ago and never new about that Idea.

Does that idea use a magnetic field and electric field?

Last i read on it the electromagnetic field was not meant 2 do what its doing.

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### #4 DaveC426913

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 08:42 PM

Without anything external to push against or ejecting mass, you cannot make a craft go anywhere.

Basic Newtonian physics.

### #5 VictorMedvil

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:25 AM

Dave C is correct in order to move an object there must be a equal and opposite force exterted upon objects as space is not charged, Colored, flavoured or massive. There is a requirement of energy-mass to be lost as you move through empty space, as to say that if you want to move with electromagnetic fields there must be charged particles like a plasma leaving the ship to exert the electromagnetic replusion or attraction upon.

Edited by VictorMedvil, 01 August 2018 - 01:29 AM.

### #6 obliqueweaponsfb

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 04:42 AM

Dave C is correct in order to move an object there must be a equal and opposite force exterted upon objects as space is not charged, Colored, flavoured or massive. There is a requirement of energy-mass to be lost as you move through empty space, as to say that if you want to move with electromagnetic fields there must be charged particles like a plasma leaving the ship to exert the electromagnetic replusion or attraction upon.

So what if you used neutral particle? It's a particle with no electric charge?

What if we find away to fill the magnetic field with neutral particles and something hit it 2 get movement?

Am i miss understanding it? Neutral particles have mass right?

### #7 VictorMedvil

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 04:46 AM

So what if you used neutral particle? It's a particle with no electric charge?

What if we find away to fill the magnetic field with neutral particles and something hit it 2 get movement?

Am i miss understanding it? Neutral particles have mass right?

You can use any particles with mass to accelerate yourself but with Electromagnetism neutral particles will not be effected by the electromagnetic repulsion or attraction, but anything with mass can be used to generate a force to move an object.

### #8 DaveC426913

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 07:04 PM

So what if you used neutral particle?

Yes. We simply call this reaction mass.

You throw it out the back end of the rocket, and your rocket goes the opposite direction.

The thing is, it doesn't get around the primary problems of rocketry:

1] storing all that mass (and thus moving it, as dead-weight)

2] accelerating that mass to a high velocity

If the mass is not chemically active, then you need a device (motor) that accelerates it. And that device will need fuel to power it,

Our solution is to use chemically-active mass. You don't need a motor to accelerate it - the energy is stored chemically within the mass itself - often some form of oxygen and hydrogen - and released simply by combining and igniting them. Not much to go wrong with a fuel tank, a valve, a spark and an exhaust nozzle.

Edited by DaveC426913, 01 August 2018 - 07:06 PM.

### #9 Shustaire

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 07:45 PM

Not much to go wrong with a fuel tank, a valve, a spark and an exhaust nozzle.

Nah just don't get the a bad spark where you don't want it, lmao however the principle is extremely simple one can design the fuel jets in such a way to maximize efficiency.

Edited by Shustaire, 01 August 2018 - 07:47 PM.

### #10 obliqueweaponsfb

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 11:53 AM

So if he hold Neutral particles in the magnetic field or anything, is there anything that will force it away of make it move pulling the ship forward?

### #11 DaveC426913

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 06:35 PM

So if he hold Neutral particles in the magnetic field or anything, is there anything that will force it away of make it move pulling the ship forward?

Well sure. There's lots of ways.

Heat them till they turn to a gas, they will expand enthusiastically.

Make sure they are made of chemically-active materials, then they will heat themselves, turn to a gas, and expand enthusiastically.

If there's a hole in the chamber, they will attempt escape - again - enthusiastically. If that hole is at the opposite end of the ship from the cockpit, all the better.

Edited by DaveC426913, 09 August 2018 - 06:41 PM.