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Lets talk about dimensions: what dimension we are living in now: 3rd or 4th? We agreed on that the 4th is time and the first 3 are X-, Y-, Z- axes. We move around and see the first 3 dimensions. (space). the 4th is time (space and time).  Its take time to move around in space. Time is a constant in our perspective in our dimension. So all the science is set to that conclusion. Except relativity of time/space to gravity. We try to understand gravity in space and time. We don't even know what gravity really is, we know that the forces it makes on certain mass (m/s2 and ft/s2). but if you have a look, they are concluded in our dimension (time and space). 
So lets talk about "we can see in the first 3 dimensions" how we can see them takes time to observe. We see with the speed of light (299792458 m/s - 186000 mi/s) we measure that also in time and space. 
We use lenses also on pictures. Those only record space because it uses light to store them. Illusion also? 

question: is the earth flat or is the earth round (sphere)?, i don't know. All i know is that i can see/observe that the earth is not flat.
and because it is a sphere is because of gravity pull.

We try to understand things and focused by the things we know. We need math for that, the math we have is limited to our dimensions: space and time is what we have now. 

example: if you would trow a ball into a 2nd dimension? What would happen? Is there anyway they can explain that in that dimension? Truth is, we don't know. We could try to explain it in our point of few. 

If that not make any sense, how can we explain what we don't know either. 

 

So certain laws we know about nature are true, but some we don't know can't only be calculated by things we don't know yet.

​example: we know if an apple falls from a tree, that mass would travel trough space and takes time. Mass attracts. If the apple had more mass that the earth, the earth would 'fall' to the apple?

So in our mindset, we can see what is happening, but we define that action in our way of thinking. 

 

Can somebody explain me what gravity really does?

If gravity bends time and space, is that what we see and observe real? 

My idea of it all is only the point of view. We see what we see, it not necessarily has to be there. So what do we really see?

 

i don't know if this is the right pace to discuss this, but i give it a try, im new sharing thoughts.

 

regards,

Klaas

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dang, I need to edit my thread

 

3x not 2x.

 

2 point something is the changing fractal

 

"The minimum number of dimensions is >2, not greater than or equal to, just greater than. The maximum is <3.
The dimensions constantly vary but stay within 3x where 1>x. This change is time. A negative change contracts, a positive change dilates time."

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So what you are saying is that movement is going forward and one would be not constant after the other one?

Man, im not that good in expressing in words. But if i think what you mean is that there is no balance in dimensions? What if time is not a constant?

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He's not talking any sense. Hasn't for a while now.

 

Im open minded.

 

@Creating, 

I see you answer very clear and understand that also in that point. But i look a bit further. Don't get me wrong. 

Nothing excites without another. Nothing can't get out of nothing. Gravity is there because of mass, mass created gravity. So what did gravity created?

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So what you are saying is that movement is going forward and one would be not constant after the other one?

Man, im not that good in expressing in words. But if i think what you mean is that there is no balance in dimensions? What if time is not a constant?

Let's say you have three dimensions, x,y,z; each with a value of one in a linear time continuum going one, & a negative xyz each with a value of 1 in a negative arrow of time going the other. Now in a lateral dual continuum .3 of each linear continuum going in through each other, canceling out, now xyz have a value of .7 with a total of 2.1 dimensions. Now in our next reel point .2 of each arrow has passed into each other, leaving a value of .8 for xyz, with a total of 2.4 dimensions. From reel one to reel two the dimensions of space time have increased, this is time contraction (fast forward) the reverse of time dilation (slow motion).

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If you'd simply fully commit your mathematical mind to all of my conjectures as opposed to just matter being trapped light, gravity as a wave propagating volumetric reduction of scwarhzchild radii, & static universes you'd plot my E8 & arrive at the real TOE that the powers that be (The Church) have possessed for upward of 1500 years. They've always been ahead of the scientific community, they bought the universities that indoctrinated them

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There is a chicken an egg scenario where you can argue what came first, matter or curvature? In early cosmology cases of quantizating the gravitational potential allows you to create particles! Any other cases of ''gravity'' creating anything, I do not know about. Also, the presence of mass, is gravity, the presence of energy is also a gravitational source. Anything that contributes to the stress energy tensor will be a source of gravity.

There is no unmoved mover.

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Let's say you have three dimensions, x,y,z; each with a value of one in a linear time continuum going one, & a negative xyz each with a value of 1 in a negative arrow of time going the other. Now in a lateral dual continuum .3 of each linear continuum going in through each other, canceling out, now xyz have a value of .7 with a total of 2.1 dimensions. Now in our next reel point .2 of each arrow has passed into each other, leaving a value of .8 for xyz, with a total of 2.4 dimensions. From reel one to reel two the dimensions of space time have increased, this is time contraction (fast forward) the reverse of time dilation (slow motion).

You can actually claim 3.5 or 4 dimensions in the sense that we have multiple reels being the third dimension moving through time as a forth dimension, & a fifth being the lateral continuum, in which case if you include the negative 3.5 & 4 dimensions that's between 7 & 8 dimensions. Altogether a potential of between 7 & 9 fractal dimensions, 7 point something to 8 point something possible fractal dimensions.
 
 
 
Yet for the differential geometry of my seven vector plus one spherical coordinate E8 group, has 33 different possible gauge symmetries which can be thought of as 33 dimensions. So a total 231 to 296 point something mathematical dimensions.
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Sorry for my late reply, but it's nice to see this forum is active. 

 

But i try to start from scratch. I'm aware of the possible dimensions and of understanding the discovery of the Higgs particle (boson).

I want to look at things from a more logic point of view instead of a mathematical point of few. 

Instead of making conclusion mathematically, i want to look at things logically.

 

So before we continue: what is the logic about math and what math you can put into logic.

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Sorry for my late reply, but it's nice to see this forum is active. 

 

But i try to start from scratch. I'm aware of the possible dimensions and of understanding the discovery of the Higgs particle (boson).

I want to look at things from a more logic point of view instead of a mathematical point of few. 

Instead of making conclusion mathematically, i want to look at things logically.

 

So before we continue: what is the logic about math and what math you can put into logic.

Well when I talk about the 231 to 296 point something dimensions, it's countless overlapping graphs in higher dimensions. Really you can't see it precisely even in a holographic projection. But you can code it with symbols or imagine it in your mind.

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