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Soo.. the other day I read that the Alpha Centauri system might have several exoplanets apart from Proxima b.. so I looked for info about the Starshot project and found out that the team launched in July a 3.5 x 3.5cm satellite weighing 4 grams.. this encourages me to believe that the project can actually be achievable.. what do you guys think? do you think that a faster interstellar travel system will be developed even sooner?

 

I decided to make a video on this exciting topic and I would like to share it with you guys: https://youtu.be/jF2juqeDa-E

 

I honestly can't wait 44 years for receiving the first images of Proxima b, I would be 70 years old. There must be another way of getting there sooner.

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Soo.. the other day I read that the Alpha Centauri system might have several exoplanets apart from Proxima b.. so I looked for info about the Starshot project and found out that the team launched in July a 3.5 x 3.5cm satellite weighing 4 grams.. this encourages me to believe that the project can actually be achievable.. what do you guys think? do you think that a faster interstellar travel system will be developed even sooner?

 

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I honestly can't wait 44 years for receiving the first images of Proxima b, I would be 70 years old. There must be another way of getting there sooner.

Why "must" there be? 

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Soo.. the other day I read that the Alpha Centauri system might have several exoplanets apart from Proxima b.. so I looked for info about the Starshot project and found out that the team launched in July a 3.5 x 3.5cm satellite weighing 4 grams.. this encourages me to believe that the project can actually be achievable.. what do you guys think? do you think that a faster interstellar travel system will be developed even sooner?

 

I decided to make a video on this exciting topic and I would like to share it with you guys: https://youtu.be/jF2juqeDa-E

 

I honestly can't wait 44 years for receiving the first images of Proxima b, I would be 70 years old. There must be another way of getting there sooner.

 

*smiles* Quantum gate, Matter Transmission...... you would be there at speed equal to Quantum entanglement being at least 10,000 times the speed of light.

 

https://newatlas.com/quantum-entanglement-speed-10000-faster-light/26587/

 

http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Matter_Transmission_(SMAC)

 

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That would get you there in exactly, 558.45 seconds @ 4.25 light years away.

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*smiles* Quantum gate, Matter Transmission...... you would be there at speed equal to Quantum entanglement being at least 10,000 times the speed of light.

 

https://newatlas.com/quantum-entanglement-speed-10000-faster-light/26587/

 

http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Matter_Transmission_(SMAC)

 

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That would get you there in exactly, 558.45 seconds @ 4.25 light years away.

I explained entanglement in the toy model of gravity thread & it's not the same as the first link you posted. That's the result of particle pairs being causally connected. We're not causally connected to zero point energy arising from parallel white holes the size of a particle, that has nothing to do with the quantum zeno effect. Particle pairs are causally connected beyond the speed of light because of gravity beneath the planck length. Wave particles are made out of a billion billion billion smaller particles, moving a non-wave particle (displacement) via the observer effect will cause superluminal gravitational interactions when that particle breaks up into a wace because the speed of light crosses a distance beneath the planck length at a faster rate than C. This causes a domino effect that moves (polar) displacement particle B the same state (polarization) as particle A. The billions of smaller particles that compose a wave particle were gravitationally linked over all the wave particles between particle A & B. Changing the polarization of one link in the chain changes the polarization of all of the links in the chain (zeno) ftl. Weak qe Edited by Super Polymath
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I explained entanglement in the toy model of gravity thread & it's not the same as the first link you posted. That's the result of particle pairs being causally connected. We're not causally connected to zero point energy arising from parallel white holes the size of a particle, that has nothing to do with the quantum zeno effect. Particle pairs are causally connected beyond the speed of light because of gravity beneath the planck length. Wave particles are made out of a billion billion billion smaller particles, moving a non-wave particle (displacement) via the observer effect will cause superluminal gravitational interactions when that particle breaks up into a wace because the speed of light crosses a distance beneath the planck length at a faster rate than C. This causes a domino effect that moves (polar) displacement particle B the same state (polarization) as particle A. The billions of smaller particles that compose a wave particle were gravitationally linked over all the wave particles between particle A & B. Changing the polarization of one link in the chain changes the polarization of all of the links in the chain (zeno) ftl. Weak qe

Darn, I really liked the idea that, that could generate the gate from Civ BE that you use to conquer earth  when you return from the Exoplanet you built it on which can also be used to bring Earth setters to the Exoplanet, we don't know the speed of weak entangelement so it may not be in seconds like I thought for light-years of distance, I had assumed a Strong Entanglement it acting as a Space domain between the two of a distance which are strongly entangled sharing the same constants of space.

 

http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Emancipation_Gate_(CivBE)

 

http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Exodus_Gate_(CivBE)

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 I had assumed a Strong Entanglement acting as a Space domain between the two distances which are strongly entangled sharing the same constants of space.

Parallel universes wouldn't be separated by de sitter space, but anti de sitter space, to us it would be a very large void around the 2.somethingD hypersphere we inhabit. Imagine us being in a white hole, little micro white holes beneath the planck length flood in through the wormhole as parallel universes (non-wormhole D-branes) collide with each other & merge with the larger one consuming the smaller one, which is literally the same event as micro black holes in quasar material combining with a macro black holes within the inside-out spacetime that is anti de sitter space. How far past the horizon of our universe the parallel universe has gone as it collided with ours would be the length of the Einstein-Rosen bridge in your mathematical model. 

 

That's the concept behind strong qe in the mathematical model you made. It is dark energy & expansion here on top of the fact that spacetime is, by this very process, flowing out of anti de sitter space & into de sitter space & vice versa. Parallel universes within anti de sitter space are also black holes in our space, literally, & as they merge, we get gravity/mass/the higgs field/dark matter. De sitter & anti de sitter space can be seen as infinite universes that are perpendicular, as opposed to parallel, to one another. Which is why de sitter spaces are always parallel to one another, as are anti de sitter spaces. 

 

Wait, that's all in the math you made in the toy model of gravity, right? Probably, I don't really know the math. 

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Parallel universes wouldn't be separated by de sitter space, but anti de sitter space, to us it would be a very large void around the 2.somethingD hypersphere we inhabit. Imagine us being in a white hole, little micro white holes beneath the planck length flood in through the wormhole as parallel universes (non-wormhole D-branes) collide with each other & merge with the larger one consuming the smaller one, which is literally the same event as micro black holes in quasar material combining with a macro black holes within the inside-out spacetime that is anti de sitter space. How far past the horizon of our universe the parallel universe has gone as it collided with ours would be the length of the Einstein-Rosen bridge in your mathematical model. 

 

That's the concept behind strong qe in the mathematical model you made. It is dark energy & expansion here on top of the fact that spacetime is, by this very process, flowing out of anti de sitter space & into de sitter space & vice versa. Parallel universes within anti de sitter space are also black holes in our space, literally, & as they merge, we get gravity/mass/the higgs field/dark matter. De sitter & anti de sitter space can be seen as infinite universes that are perpendicular, as opposed to parallel, to one another. Which is why de sitter spaces are always parallel to one another, as are anti de sitter spaces. 

 

Wait, that's all in the math you made in the toy model of gravity, right? Probably, I don't really know the math. 

 

Okay, I solved the equation, you would get there in 77.683218322126870022215693936644 Hours or 3.2368007634219529175923205806935 Days using a Quantum Gate. 

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Google lookup is a wonderful tool for the end result equation. That wasn't what I was referring to. Anyone can google lookup. Understanding how to derive the equations and how to apply them is another matter.

 

I didnt exclude myself from that list, so its not arrogance as I wouldn't know how either.

 

Googling an equation is not the same thing as knowing the equation.

 

I hope your not claiming to understand how the bridge construction is derived. Naturally one can google up the original paper to see how Einstein and Rosen constructed the bridge. It is available on the Web as well.

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Google lookup is a wonderful tool for the end result equation. That wasn't what I was referring to. Anyone can google lookup. Understanding how to derive the equations and how to apply them is another matter.

 

I didnt exclude myself from that list, so its not arrogance as I wouldn't know how either.

 

Googling an equation is not the same thing as knowing the equation.

 

I hope your not claiming to understand how the bridge construction is derived. Naturally one can google up the original paper to see how Einstein and Rosen constructed the bridge. It is available on the Web as well.

 

Obviously, I know how it is constructed from the Schwarzchild Metric @ dr = 4u2du, then plugged into 4-D Invariant Time-space.

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Ok then demonstrate how to get from the Schwartzchild you posted to the equation you googled on the ds^2 equation for the Einstein Rosen bridge. Any idiot can google lookup so don't for a second believe that just because you can look up an equation means I believe you know how they were developed. I'm not some random sucker you can fool with googling equations and copying from other lectures resources etc

 

PS you need to set specifific conditions up,

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Ok then demonstrate how to get from the Schwartzchild you posted to the equation you googled on the ds^2 equation for the Einstein Rosen bridge. Any idiot can google lookup so don't for a second believe that just because you can look up an equation means I believe you know how they were developed. I'm not some random sucker you can fool with googling equations and copying from other lectures resources etc

 

PS you need to set specifific conditions up,

 

I don't have time to do that, but it has to do with the derivative of r then chain rule. 

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