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#18 exchemist

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 02:38 PM

I can only imagine going through that.  I told my wife she has to outlive me, even though I qualified for a lower life insurance premium than she did.  (She was perturbed because she is careful what she eats, and I eat a very high fat diet.)

 

I agree about not generalizing, and I would like to point out that a good doctor can make a huge difference as well. There are still quite a few doctors who act like they want to be dictators.  Always get a second opinion.

Yeah it wasn't fun, but you do what you have to do, don't you?

 

Re doctors, she had a good (female) oncologist who she felt understood her and they conspired against the disease together. But I used to go along when she had taken a turn for the worse, because she would always understate what was wrong with her. The oncologist would look at me, and I would tell her what was really going on, and then the two women would decide between them what to do next. It was a good way to handle it - they had a good relationship. The oncologist came and found me just after she died at the hospital and we had a chat about it all. She was about as good as they get, I think (both the wife and the oncologist :) ).   



#19 ntuc

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 01:50 AM

A very simple principle & Direct reality for the fees-paying patients
 
 
And well, all in all, it all would just come down eventually to the very simple principle & direct reality that fees-paying patients paying medical fees / monies to the fees-seeking doctors are undoubtedly to get themselves healed, treated & cured eventually rather than making things worse in the end.


And it's simply all common senses


Whilst in the case of psychiatrists, these medical fees / monies are certainly, definitely & simply not paid by the related fees-paying patients to the fees-seeking doctors for eventually getting EPS in the end -
http://www.psychvisi...E.html#dystonia
 
Additional Information:


http://www.curezone....asp?i=2063112#i -Fees-seeking Psychiatrist & Their Fees-paying Patients – Everyone Has All the Undisputed Rights & Responsibilities On Any Grounds to Safeguard the Best Possible Interests of Their Personal Heath Cares & Well-beings
 
 

http://www.curezone....asp?i=2386541#i - Follow-up : Fees-seeking Psychiatrist & Their Fees-paying Patients – General & brief idea about psychotherapy
 

 

http://www.psychvisi...chotherapy.html  - Psychotherapy

 
Follow-up : Commercial Reality of Pharmaceutical Drugs - Moneyed-interests & factors dominate & prevail over everything ?


Next, reasonably anyone, having conducted the related reality / practical studies, would then find out the follows :



Quote[Originally Posted by "DrGeoff"


If there is big money in a drug, there will be big money to promote it.]End Quote

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"big money in a drug", "big money to promote it".


Well, evidently that just means huge monetary investments getting spent commercially in launching & marketing both new & existing pharmaceutical drugs.


Next, while the monetary returns on such commercial investments would undoubtedly & ultimately depend on & come substantially from the fees-paying patients who just turn out to be the end users of these big-moneyed drugs whereby the bigger and the greater the sales of such drugs to the fees-paying patients, the greater and the bigger would be the return on the monetary investments of these big-moneyed drugs, and that's the so-called the goal of commercial / moneyed-interests profit-maximization.


And obviously,that's definitely viewed solely from the standpoints of the moneyed-interests motivations & definitely nothing else whereby everything is considered based purely on the impersonal profit & loss accounts of these big-moneyed drugs investors, which could include the developers, manufacturers, distributors and the medical personnel themselves.


Next, reasonably anyone would agree that, at least on any / mere and the very basic ethical grounds & under any circumstances, the fees-paying patients' welfare, well-beings, health cares & eventually their very lives simply shouldn't be sacrificed for such purely self-serving profit-oriented moneyed-interests "medical pursuits"


Well, all in all, it all would just come down eventually to the very simple principle & direct reality that fees-paying patients paying medical fees / monies to the fees-seeking doctors are undoubtedly to get themselves healed, treated & cured eventually rather than making things worse in the end


And it's simply all common senses at least for the fees-paying patients.....


.....as quoted from :


http://www.thisisms....topic29301.html (please refer to the post entitled "Moneyed-interests & factors dominate & prevail over everything ?")


Edited by ntuc, 06 November 2017 - 02:49 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2017 - 02:49 AM

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[Well, all in all, it all would just come down eventually to the very simple principle & direct reality that fees-paying patients paying medical fees / monies to the fees-seeking doctors are undoubtedly to get themselves healed, treated & cured eventually rather than making things worse in the end.

And it's simply all common senses at least for the fees-paying patients[/i].....


.....as quoted from :


http://www.thisisms....topic29301.html (please refer to the post entitled "Moneyed-interests dominate & prevail over everything ?")] End Quote




Follow-up : Common senses for (fees-paying) patients


First of all, please refer to my very first posts for further follow-ups in regard to the title " Moneyed-interests & factors dominate & prevail over everything " as stated above.


Whilst in my case saddeningly, everyone around me, including the doctors I paid for, etc just openly & knowingly keep me in the dark about this EPS - http://www.psychvisi...E.html#dystonia before I recover substantially from it about a decade ago. Whilst, the entire process was absolutely a painful ordeal.


As such, it’s obviously just mere common sense that anyone, especially the (fees-paying) patients shouldn’t ever get EPS - http://www.psychvisi...E.html#dystonia in the very first place to avoid any potentially & contingently unwanted bodily harms, disasters, catastrope whilst the related curative and therapeutic responsibilities naturally & certainly rest with the (fees-seeking) duly accredited doctors who are supposed & professionally obliged to make sure that all the patients they treat and cure get better and better gradually rather than making their conditions turning worse and worse from time to time / get (irreversibly) worst in the end.


Next, this particular needle-free acupuncture for Blepharospasm - http://www.curezone....asp?i=1428266#i, being one of the landmark symptoms of Dystonia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystonia, is just one of the numerous methodologies that is conclusive, definitive & foolproof enough that I am able to provide to the intended others to at least relieve themselves of the related pains & sufferings to the very minimum extent.


Whilst saddeningly, the harsh & cruel reality of this world that we are living in is that, reasonably I guess that whenever it comes to moneyed-interests & factors, anything, possibly even human lives, can just simply be abandoned / thrown away outright like garbages, and that may just include kin / kinship as well, maybe, simply for the sake of that.


Hence, it’s just another matter of common sense that, don’t pay the doctors so as to eventually end yourselves up as / like garbages in the end.



#21 Deepwater6

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 03:15 PM

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My company gives me BC/BS because I've been with them for so long and the benefits employees are hired with usually stay with them aside from rising co-pay costs. New employees hired after me were brought on board with less and less health benefits over the years. Young people eager for a job will sign up for whatever they can get just to get their foot in the door. Modern companies know this and use it to their advantage at the expense of the new employee.

 

Most of the time when my doctor writes me a script it's usually generic. My doctor refers to these as the "poor man's" version of the medicine. The prescription company used with my insurance is the mail order type. You can get three scripts filled at a corner drug store, but only for the first three fills. After that, if you need more of that medicine you must order it through the mail from a certain on-line pharmacy. I assume it is so they can find the cheapest generics they can find across the country to fill the order.

 

At my last doctors appt. I had words with my Neurologist. I showed up 10 minutes before the appt. time. I then sat there for close to an hour waiting to be seen. if he was treating other people I can understand that, but I saw three drug reps. who showed up unannounced after I arrived and without an appt. From where I sat I could hear the sales pitch of all three. Along with samples and other perks to entice the doctor to write scripts for their meds whenever possible.

 

My time, like anyone's, is valuable, I believe that doctors should only allow these sales calls at times with no patient appointments, and I told the Neurologist abrasively as much. 

 

As far as doctors pay I have no hard data, but I believe most of the doctors and hospital bills charged are dictated by the insurance companies and what they will pay for procedures. Do people who have more money and better health insurance get better treatment....probably. A lot of things work like that in this world unfortunately.

 

Like Washington I have no idea how to fix the healthcare in America. It's solution seems so far out of reach, but we must keep trying. .I scoff at the people who say Obama care was too costly and a failed system. Yes it was not perfect, yes it costs a lot of money, but America has spent billions more for Iraq and other military engagements around the planet. We have spent much more on war than we have on making sure our citizens have something close to fair health coverage for all. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are a lot of reasons for high drug prices, but greed is definitely up there as a cause.