However, I had never seen a male dogs go all the way and have sexual intercourse with other males. This is where humans depart from the animals.
When I read this, I wondered if male dogs could “go all the way” – that is, have anal sex ending with ejaculation.
The penises of dogs and other canids
are very different from human ones. Here human penises are flaccid until blood engorged, canid penises are rigid because of a bone not found in the human penis. It becomes blood engorged after being inserted in the vagina, mostly in an area near the tip called the bulbus glandis, causing it to be “locked in” until after ejaculation. I wasn’t sure whether this would work with an anus.
I found this 2012 quora.com post
from a dog breeder who describes having seen a male dog have ejaculatory anal sex with another male dog, and being advise by a veterinarian that as long as both dogs were kept calm, neither would be injured.
This isn’t the most scientific of sources, but I find it sufficient to convince me that male dogs can indeed “go all the way”.
Oh wonderful internet, is there nothing you cannot tell us!
We have all observed male dogs humping other male dogs. This behavior is not for sex or love, but is a form of aggression done for dominance.
Immature and mature male and female
dogs “mount and hump”, for many reasons, including relieve stress and anxiety, not just to assert social dominance. This WebMD article
has a pretty good description of this behavior.
Prison sex is not love but aggression and rape.
As other have already commented, this unsupported claim from you, HBond, suggest to me you’ve not spent much time in prisons or around people who have. Your description is laughably wrong to anyone who has. Sex, love, aggression, and rape is, in my experience, not much different in prison than in general society.
What if "homophobia" is an actual mental illness? What if someone is literally overcome by a real irrational fear of homosexuality? Could that not be considered by some to be "unnatural"? That probably opens up a whole new "can of worms."
LOL. I think you’re pointing a shortcoming of our languages’ use of Greek/Latin-based words ending “-phobia” and “-philia”, which imply a continuum with “brotherly love” on one extreme and “terror” on the other. We use this word ending to describe continuums such as approval-disapproval, as well as true psychiatric conditions. “Homophobia”, doesn’t commonly mean “fear of homosexuals”, but “hatred” or “disapproval”.
Maybe we should all speak Esperanto
. I understand it has more sensible word-ending schemes. The downside is that we’d only be able to talk with an estimated 100,000 to 10,000,000 people, since in the 130 years it’s been around, not too many people have adopted it.
I think most people who are afraid of it are having trouble facing their own sexuality. There's probably a lot of bisexuals (assuming that's as common as homosexuality) that don't act on their feelings because they've been brought up to think of it that it's wrong or unnatural.
Some people very vocal in their hatred/disapproval of gays have proven to be gay (here’s a list
of 16), but I don’t think most strongly anti-gay people are just LGB people unwilling to accept their own inclinations.
I’ve known some people I have no doubt are strongly heterosexual (0 or 1s on the Kinsey scale
) who seemed simply offended by the very concept of homosexuality. Most were religious and self-described social conservatives
, but I’ve know some self-described social liberals
who were. As liberals, they believed, intellectually, that everyone should be at liberty to behave as they like, so long as it doen’t harm or infringe on the liberties of others, but if actually faced with, say, two men kissing, or a glimpse of gay pornography, felt emotional discomfort to the point where they had to look away.
Psychology and behavior is complicated, especially human’s. It’s hard to make simple, accurate statement about specific kinds.