Posted 05 May 2005 - 03:01 PM
i know there wasn't two suns up there in space, we would have been sizzled. what i'm wondering is how the hell two suns appeared to be in the sky.
obviously this was some sort of illusion...has anybody ever seen this, or does anybody know ANYTHING about this? it even led me to go home and paint the street and the sky with pastels because i needed to document it so bad!
i had completely forgotten about this event until one of my buddies reminded me today. i am still competely dumbfounded and amazed and dying for an explanation, and this is the best place for it.
please do not make sarcastic remarks about acid flashbacks or something, because well i've never done acid, and the person sitting right next to me saw it too, who has ALSO never done acid. thank you!
attached is the pastel i drew when i got home. (im not an artist) the sun on the left is the "normal" usual sun that sets behind the santa cruz mountains. the right one being it's bastard mystery clone!
Posted 05 May 2005 - 03:17 PM
Were there any clouds in the sky at all? Inversion layers can kind a do that sort of thing. Also, in the car, you can get some wacko visual effects from stuff refracting off the windsheild. I spend a lot of time in a car, and I see the wierdest things there...
An actual second Sun would have had lots of wierd gravity effects in addtion to the doubling of infrared and other radiation you mention. You also draw it as a different color which is interesting, but still might indicate a reflection off a colored object (bright enough and you can't tell what its diameter is).
Posted 05 May 2005 - 03:21 PM
but that's what i was thinking, that the sky was somehow refracting, or reflecting,( i dont know the right term, ) the suns image across the sky.
we both only saw this for a minute or so, we turned left down another street and the sky was blocked by trees. i went home after that.
it must have been brief because i would assume this would cause mass confusion if it lasted a while.
p.s. thanks buffy
Posted 05 May 2005 - 03:30 PM
Posted 05 May 2005 - 03:35 PM
___Whatever the cause, it's another gesture from the world for you Orby (& your girl ).
The drawing was a good idea as well.
Posted 05 May 2005 - 03:41 PM
Posted 05 May 2005 - 03:54 PM
webmaster at spaceweather.com
I think the optics guys name is Wes.
Posted 05 May 2005 - 04:04 PM
ok but what's a sundog?
Posted 05 May 2005 - 04:07 PM
___If you visit spaceweather frequently, you will see articles on sundogs of many varieties (there are Moon dogs too) along with Wes's explanation. You may also find these in their archives I suppose.
___Keep looking skyward!
Posted 05 May 2005 - 04:12 PM
Posted 05 May 2005 - 04:19 PM
Clouds can often have ice crystals even if it is 60 or 70 on the ground. Haven't you ever been in a midsummer hailstorm? I guess some similar effects might be possible with water vapor as well.
well if it's ice that would not make any sense because i saw this in the bay area, california, exactly one year ago.... that looks exactly like it though...can sundogs appear without the ice?
Posted 05 May 2005 - 04:20 PM
Posted 05 May 2005 - 04:37 PM
Posted 05 May 2005 - 05:17 PM
I wasn't trying to say hail produced sundogs, only that hail shows that freezing temperatures can occur in the summer in the upper atmosphere.
hail doesn't produce sundogs.