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Is there an argumentation, that in order for some population to have a satisfactory love life (marriage, fidelity), another part were to be "forbidden" to have such feelings (priests) and those were in some sense psychically transmitted ? (And not destructed ?)

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eunechs come to mind. ouch! :shrug: however the physical "transmission" is cultural; if you mean to imply a genetic transmission, then no. cultural behavior is not transmitted via genetics. while often associated with the chinese, the practice is not unique to them. :)

 

A eunuch (HS)(pronounced /ˈjuːnək/) is a castrated man; usually one castrated early enough to have major hormonal consequences.

 

The term usually refers to those castrated in order to perform a specific social function, as was common historically in many societies. The earliest records for intentional castration to produce eunuchs are from the Sumerian city of Lagash in the twenty first century BC.[1][2] Over the millennia since, they have performed a wide variety of functions in many different cultures such as: courtiers or equivalent domestics, treble singers, religious specialists, government officials, military commanders, and guardians of women or harem servants. In some translations of ancient texts, individuals identified as eunuchs sometimes historically included men who were impotent with women, as well as those who were celibate. ...

Eunuch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Eunuchs or simply attached people that cannot move or do anything, some way to forbid people to have any sexual activity. (If you want a minority report-like..forced life-long virginity to create a kind of psychological system, hidden) ?? (The oppposite abomination of forcing women to have sex with anykind of man)

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Eunuchs or simply attached people that cannot move or do anything, some way to forbid people to have any sexual activity. (If you want a minority report-like..forced life-long virginity to create a kind of psychological system, hidden) ??

 

? yeah, i don't think so.

 

anyone who seeks to destroy the passions instead of controlling them is trying to play the angel. ~ voltaire

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We never know, we nowadays most of the time hear of forcing to intercourse (women forced to take a man, or opposite...nowadays we have to force people to intercourse, cause nobody is really wanting it), but, nobody said the opposite did not exist (chastety belt...old fashioned, but our ancestor were seemingly much more active).

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We never know, we nowadays most of the time hear of forcing to intercourse (knotted women forced to take several men), but, nobody said the opposite did not exist (chastety belt...old fashioned torture).

 

well, this may be the current cultural norm where you are, but it is not universal either in time or place. Confuscius is rolling over in his grave. :) (that's an american expression indicating a dead person would be upset & protesting over what was being said or done in their name.) :shrug:

 

...When Confucius first set forth his teachings, he discarded the ancient learning, reformed existing institutions, rejected monarchism, advocated republicanism, and transformed inequality into equality. He indeed applied himself to many changes. Unfortunately, the scholars who followed Xunzi forgot entirely the true meaning of Confucius's teaching but clung to its superficial form. They allowed the ruler supreme, unlimited powers and enabled him to make use of Confuscianism in controlling the country. ...
Sources of Chinese Tradition: From ... - Google Books
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Well, this is maybe an effect of the politics of fear towards the demographic explosion, leading to this kind of frozen mankind...since we all need ownspace, ressources, food, and else the diseases and wars spread to quickly.

 

yes; i quite agree. it is not unique to china or this age. this is in part what george satyana was getting at in saying, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."[ The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905]

 

so the real problem, in my opinion, is that of education and it's control. as soon as confuscius died, those who controlled past knowledge, the scribes/priests/government/rulers cast their own versions of his precepts in their own writings and iconography so as to make it appear to support their actions. without recourse to original material, you get the big freezer.

 

i'm interested in whether or not you had any problem reading my book reference, as it is from Google books and i know China censors Google & there is an ongoing flap over it. could you read it freely? just so, i think this control of knowledge on the internet is doomed to fail for authorities just as any such suppresion has historically failed. some of the oldest cave paintings appear to be phalluses drawn by teenage boys. :turtle: anyway, this failure to suppress knowledge/writing/iconography is one of the reasons ben franklin et al saw fit to put a clause in our constituiton on the freedom of the press, which is to say they knew folks would print what they wanted to anyway and making it illegal would just be an exercise in futility and so a waste of capital resources. common knowledge leads to people-kind thawage. (just made that one up. :photos: ) i know i have been using the internet to that end on my side of the pond at any rate. nice chatting with you. :shrug: :singer: :)

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I didn't buy the book, i have access to reviews but not the preview.

 

I read somewhere that methods of conquiring is by separing/dividing. I wonder if this comes from east or west, since to separate groups, the state use the fact that people want to be richer and let some believe. (physically). Money is western method to do this but it has no sense to separate if it was not together(in common) before.

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I didn't buy the book, i have access to reviews but not the preview.

 

acknowledged. i didn't buy it either, but was able to preview it. i did have to hand-key my quote though as it didn't allow copy & paste. i believe it is a part of the Google effort to scan & digitally score every book ever written. :) Google Books Library Project

 

I read somewhere that methods of conquiring is by separing/dividing. I wonder if this comes from east or west, since to separate groups, the state use the fact that people want to be richer and let some believe. (physically). Money is western method to do this but it has no sense to separate if it was not together(in common) before.

 

don't remember who said it do you? i love that kinda stuff. try this:

 

Generally, the principles of warfare are:

 

The general receives his commands from the ruler, assembles the troops, mobilizes the army, and sets up camp.

 

There is nothing more difficult than armed struggle.

 

In armed struggle, the difficulty is turning the circuitous into the direct, and turning adversity into advantage.

 

Therefore, if you make the enemy's route circuitous and bait him with advantages, though you start out behind him, you will arrive before him.

 

This is to know the calculations of the circuitous and of the direct.

 

Therefore, armed struggle has advantages, and armed struggle has risks.

Sonshi.com | Chapter 7 Sun Tzu The Art of War and Strategy Site.
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I don't even have access to preview, maybe because I use the french setting.

 

:turtle: i didn't think of that. mon dieu! :naughty: anyway, i was just curious having heard a fair amount of news reports here in the united states about the filtering in china. i do know that our military academies study sun tzu's the art of war. knowledge, like gold, is where you find it; but unlike gold, knowledge has no mass & is not diminished by distribution. :confused:

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U mean the book were filtered by chinese authorities ?

 

yes; i was asking that. :help: when i go to the link i am talking about, this one: >>Sources of Chinese Tradition: From ... - Google Books ; i can see scanned images of the entire book in English.

 

i found the link by using Google to search the phrase "Confucius on controlling people". click on the attachment below to see a screen shot of what i see when i open the link. the yellow marked words in the text are there because those words were in my search string. :clue: see the quote there i used? :turtle:

 

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