Posted 26 January 2009 - 03:53 PM
YouTube - ufo blue demon 2 part 1 Pasadena California
Posted 26 January 2009 - 04:22 PM
it seemed like everyone forgot about this like a week after
Posted 26 January 2009 - 04:28 PM
Far too often skeptics dwell on easily refuted sightings and ignore those that are less easily explained simply by assuming them to be too good to be true. I could easily hoax a UFO sighting, does that mean if I report one it should be assumed to faked? I hope not.
I honestly believe that somewhere between the true believer and the absolute skeptic lies the truth. If any sort of debate is to take place about evidence we should start out as neutrals and let the evidence guide us. Not a preconceived notion of "it has to be real" or "it cannot be real" Anything less than neutrality and the end result is always suspect.
Posted 26 January 2009 - 05:09 PM
Posted 08 March 2009 - 06:14 PM
You might like to see the work written by V.M. Rabolu: the book "Hercolubus or Red Planet" that Alcione Association is sending for free to everyone interested.
You can get information, see a video and also request a free copy at hercolubus tv site
That work gives evidence of intelligent extraterrestrial life.
I looked that up and I see absolutely no evidence this is going to happen. I can claim almost anything with out evidence and this particular idea seems to be totally bereft of any supporting evidence what so ever.
Posted 10 March 2009 - 01:37 PM
Posted 10 March 2009 - 02:49 PM
The second sighting as Symington agrees is due to the Air Force dropping flares well to the south of Phoenix.
So what about the first? Those lights were checked out by someone with a telescope in Prescott AZ. They were seen to be planes flying in formation. The time of that observation makes sense with the time that the lights were seen over Phoenix. The direction, speed, and time difference between the 2 observations agree.
Neither UFO sighting was out of the ordinary. just another case of mistaken identity.
Posted 10 March 2009 - 03:03 PM
To cut off an explanation is misleading. The narration although true is misleading.
Posted 01 April 2009 - 09:49 AM
Here are 3 links that show how to see if people are gullible.
How We Staged the Morristown UFO Hoax, Part 1: The Setup http://video.google....371226156483716
How We Staged the Morristown UFO Hoax, Part 2: The Launches http://video.google....090888158148535
How We Staged the Morristown UFO Hoax, Part 3: The Reactions http://video.google....561190713590190
Posted 03 April 2009 - 01:29 PM
Posted 03 April 2009 - 04:07 PM
Posted 03 April 2009 - 04:21 PM
I have to say that the possibilities are dwindling fast.
1. What we think we know about how the universe works is so totally off base our science cannot possibly be even close to correct in it's description of the reality all around us.
2. There is an alien presence in our solar system, possibly a colony that doesn't require planets and is possibly using the resources in our solar system in some way beneficial to them.
3. They are time travelers, (see number one)
4. All UFOs are misidentified man made or natural phenomena or hoaxes
Would any one like to suggest another possibility?
Posted 03 April 2009 - 08:46 PM
These are all examples of large things someone can find without the aid of special sophistocated equipment. With all of the eyes out there I'd expect to see something better. Maybe there are unexplained interesting phenomena going on. Maybe an amateur can figure out something interesting here without resorting to the claim of ETs, ghost, time travelers (like that idea Moontanman), or something supernatural.
Posted 04 April 2009 - 04:50 PM
Paige, crop circles are man made, all of them, every last one. Yes the two guys made mostly simple designs but there were literally hundreds of people who contributed to the crop circle craze. some of them have demonstrated how the most complex and outrageous circles were made. I have seen the films of these demonstrations. it was amazing how simple it was to make really fantastic designs. I don't think that crop circles are in any way shape or form evidence of any thing other than people's desire to fool others.
You know this because....?
Doug and Dave claimed it but you obviously were God as you actually saw them all being made? This is an opinion backed up by what evidence? This is bias based on the wish not to investigate the phenomena further but that is your choice. I don't know what caused the crop circles because I wasn't there. This is the philosophical stance - I didn't witness something so I can only speculate, not know (personal experience is the only thing you can be sure of but even the senses can get it wrong - second hand news has to be doubted because you can't be sure what others saw or 'say' they saw (could have lied)). What I do know is that this phenomena may have occurred long before Doug and Dave were around. It occurred on another continent as well (Australia) and there it was called Mares Nests, if I remember rightly and formed in reed beds. As for these pictograms being a language - I see no evidence of this (artwork, yes - message/ language, no).
Posted 04 April 2009 - 05:05 PM