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#1 genep

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 12:18 PM

Devil, Language and god.
Language is the Devil
that calls itself God.


Language's meanings, grammar, rules and rhetoric dictate
all the ways evil must act to appear good,
and good evil,
just so the devil, Language, can be god.

ONLY if we treat Language like a whore
that can only parent bastards,
ONLY then can it explode with the unfathomable Creativity
to unmask a Spiritual Wonderland of unimaginable magic
far far beyond our wildest dreams,
a Wonderland that no god or even devil can imagine
let alone enter
not even in God's most wildest dreams.

Language thus gives us its Supreme Comedy:
all we have to do to stop Language from being the devil
that masquerades as god
is to literally fukk all its holy and pious meanings, rules, spelling and grammar
so it can then explode into the Spiritual Wonderland of unimaginable magic
far far beyond our wildest dreams,
a Wonderland that no god or even devil can imagine,
let alone enter
not even in God's most wildest dreams.

-- really reality

#2 rockytriton

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 12:39 PM

wtf are you talking about??
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Posted 27 December 2007 - 01:07 PM

wtf are you talking about??


ENGLISH

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 03:58 PM

I think what Rockytriton was asking is "what is your point"?
For example, these lines

Language's meanings, grammar, rules and rhetoric dictate
all the ways evil must act to appear good,
and good evil,
just so the devil, Language, can be god.


do not make any sense. How is language the devil? It just doesn't make any sense. :shrug:

#5 LaurieAG

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 06:48 PM

For example, these lines
do not make any sense. How is language the devil? It just doesn't make any sense. :shrug:


Hi Freeztar,

I think he's trying reductio ad absurdum

(n.):
1: (reduction to the absurd) a disproof by showing that the consequences of the proposition are absurd; or a proff of a proposition by showing that its negation leads to a contradiction.

But it backfired.

i.e. If English is our language, good and evil are conceptual constructs in our language, then our language is the channel for both good and evil (god/devil).

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Posted 28 December 2007 - 12:12 PM

I think what Rockytriton was asking is "what is your point"?
For example, these lines
do not make any sense. How is language the devil? It just doesn't make any sense. :shrug:


Just for a childish start: try replacing the word "Language" with the word "scriptures" or "bible."
And if that starts the brain working
then make it really work by replacing
all the words "god" in the bible with the word "devil"
and maybe then you will understand how/why language is the devil
that calls itself god.
All you have done is change words, Language, that in turn -- if "believed" -- must replace god's heaven with the devil's hell.
-- wreally

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Posted 28 December 2007 - 12:21 PM

try replacing the word "Language" with the word "scriptures" or "bible."
And if that starts the brain working
then make it really work by replacing
all the words "god" in the bible with the word "devil"
and maybe then you will understand how/why language is the devil
that calls itself god.


I suppose you should probably stop posting and speaking altogether then so as not to enhance the devil's powers and scope. :shrug: :) :ip:



Is this why they call mute people dumb? :)
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#8 rockytriton

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 06:37 AM

Just for a childish start: try replacing the word "Language" with the word "scriptures" or "bible."
And if that starts the brain working
then make it really work by replacing
all the words "god" in the bible with the word "devil"
and maybe then you will understand how/why language is the devil
that calls itself god.
All you have done is change words, Language, that in turn -- if "believed" -- must replace god's heaven with the devil's hell.
-- wreally


you need help man :eek:

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 05:05 PM

Devil, Language and god.
Language is the Devil
that calls itself God.


Language's meanings, grammar, rules and rhetoric dictate
all the ways evil must act to appear good,
and good evil,
just so the devil, Language, can be god.


This makes some kind of sense to me :eek_big: :) :turtle: Kind of an Eastern Taoist kind of thing:

Not by words does God get answers:
He calls them not and all things come

...

When the great Way is forgotten, the doctrines of humanity and morality arise.
When knowledge and cleverness appear, there emerges great hypocrisy.
When there is strife in the family unit, people talk about 'brotherly love'.
When a country falls into chaos and disorder, there is praise of loyal patriots.



#10 rockytriton

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 07:26 AM

don't forget that in the gospel of john, it says that the word is god.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 01:25 PM

don't forget that in the gospel of john, it says that the word is god.


Which word?

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 07:22 AM

Which word?


yea, well, unfortunately he doesn't mention which one. :hihi:
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 06:39 PM

Actually, the "Word" meant God's spokesman, who spoke the truth. I personally do not believe Jesus was God's son, but for many Christians Jesus the "Word" spoke the truth.

John: Chapter 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 07:22 AM

that's one interpretation, personally I believe the word he is talking about is "blah".

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 08:27 AM

The 'word' in john is greek 'logos'. It means word sure enough - but it was also a greek philosophy by Heraclitus going back to the sixth century BC. It had something to do with 'the path of investigation' or the way all things change.

So, "the word was God" had some double meaning that I bet sounded good in its original greek given the word's rich history..

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 02:29 AM

that's one interpretation, personally I believe the word he is talking about is "blah".


Hi Rockytriton,

I did a soldier latin translation (rough using a lexicon & remember few spaces) from the Book of Kells and I got 'during original worship poetry springs, twisting both sayings'. It's quite reasonable considering that St Patrick was regarded to have blended the Celtic pagan traditions with the Christian traditions 2 centuries or so before the book was illustrated.

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 07:01 AM

Hi Rockytriton,

I did a soldier latin translation (rough using a lexicon & remember few spaces) from the Book of Kells and I got 'during original worship poetry springs, twisting both sayings'. It's quite reasonable considering that St Patrick was regarded to have blended the Celtic pagan traditions with the Christian traditions 2 centuries or so before the book was illustrated.


<sarcasm>what? a catholic would NEVER use pagan symbolism and rituals to help convert pagans to christianity, they would only use the power of the LORD!</sarcasm>