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#18 TheBigDog

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 12:20 PM

I have seen diagrams of the pyramids that show there are shafts that do deep into it.

Yes, and there is actually a wooden handle in one of the shafts that must have been there since it was built. This was found by one of the robots that crawled in and photographed the shafts. Trouble is that the Egyptian government won't allow scientific investigation that is in any way destructive. :shrug: Oh well.

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 09:18 PM

I find that the question should not be how, but why?

They are finding pyramids and alike structures on each continent, it would be fair to say that at one point in civilization most cultures were following a common building practice as we do today. Most countries have like wise houses and similar building tactics today in 2007. It seems that in sometime before the flood of 8000b.c great cultures built great things.

The egyptians are saying that they built it for Kufu, but i have to ask, If they built it dont you think they would have improved over millenia? Why dont we see anything resembling the ancient technology and style today?
Why are they finding pyramids in China, MExico,South America?

Would it be fair to say that these ancient structures were built properly and to last, and if they were built to last, you have to ask why. What did we want to tell our future selves, That another great earth catacalysm was underway? or, this is where we came from.

From what I researched, the pyramid size and location, all dimension were relative to the earth such as; the walls were not flat but concave, and if you were to multiply it with the pyrmid pi you would get the percentage of arc corresponding to the curvature of the earth, the area times pi equals the circumference of the earth at the equator, the average temprature in the king's chamber is the average temprature of earth, the height of the great pyramid x pi equals the average land height of earth ect ect....
Why would the Pyramids house so much information in its creation about the earth?
If they felt that we were all going to progress and live without skipping a beat why go to such great lengths?
Now with that knowledge you have to ask why?

Would it be fair to say that mabey the pyramids are much older than first thought and that the builders were aware that all of mankind might be wiped off the face of the earth(again) and built the pyramids housing all the ancient records and information about the earth for the potential survivors.

Now some will say nothing was found in the pyramid. I will have to say we cannot know that because the pyramids were visited thousands of times in thousands of years and it should be taken into account the eachtime something was taken and also the pyramids itself could very well be the lost records of our history.

Interesting is the theories behind the sphinx. Its been noted that the head on the sphinx is not the original one also the body is that of a lion. In the old testament people worshiped the image of the Bull it is believed that it represented the constellation Taurus which was around 2500b.c. Now that we are in the age of Pieces it is interesting to note that we use the FIsh to represent Jesus in this age. The next is the water bearer Aquarius. Is he going to empty his bucket on the world again?
The last Age of Leo (lion) occurred between 10,970 and 8810 BC, suggesting that the construction date of the Great Sphinx fell somewhere within this time-frame. This is not a new idea by any stretch of the imagination. As far as I am aware, this theory was first put forward by British astro-mythologist Gerald Massey in 1907. In an extraordinary work entitled Ancient Egypt - The Light of the World he boldly concluded that "... we may date the Sphinx as a monument which was reared by these great (Egyptian) builders and thinkers, who lived so largely out of themselves, some thirteen thousand years ago (i.e. in the age of Leo, its astronomical counterpart)."

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 07:39 AM

Godspeed asks a lot of qustions!

The concept of building a stone tomb for the dead seems to trace from the European megalithic age when they built mounds on stone domens. The Sumerians and Creteians picked up the idea and modiefied it as it spread to Egypt and then India. It continued to spread around the world and lingers on in the headstones we still put over graves and the moseleiums we fill with the ashes of the dead.

That some other cultures have pyramid-like tombs also is natural. There are only so many shapes a tomb can take!

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 08:07 AM

I cant believe they went to great lengths to build astromnomically tuned pyramids for the dead.

It really seems like the re-emerging humans rediscovered them and used them for what ever they saw fit.

It should also be noted that the Tuthmosis found the Sphinx abandoned. The story goes he fell asleep between the paws of the sphinx and when he awoke he recalled a dream where the sphinx spoke to him telling him if he repaired the sphinx and and the pyramid, he would be king.

One of the questions is why did they stop building them?

Why are we still asking questions on how they were built?

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 08:13 AM

And no bodies or even heiroglyphs were ever found in the Great pyramid.

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 06:31 PM

From what I researched, the pyramid size and location, all dimension were relative to the earth such as; the walls were not flat but concave, and if you were to multiply it with the pyrmid pi you would get the percentage of arc corresponding to the curvature of the earth, the area times pi equals the circumference of the earth at the equator, the average temprature in the king's chamber is the average temprature of earth, the height of the great pyramid x pi equals the average land height of earth ect ect....

If your are asserting these claims, Godspeed, you should (and as a hypographer, are actually required to) present supporting scientific evidence for them.

One claim, at least, can be show false using very common references. According to the wikipedia articles “Great Pyramid of Giza”, and “Earth”, the Great Pyramid is currently 138.8 m high, and is estimated to have been 146.6 m high when its construction was completed. 138.8 to 146.6 m times [math]\pi[/math] is between 436 or 461 m, not very close to the mean height of land above sea level of 686 m.

Why would the Pyramids house so much information in its creation about the earth?

Based on a very quick and easy checking of one of your claims about the Great Pyramid, I’m skeptical of all of them. As in any scientific discussion, it’s not the responsibility of a skeptic to prove extraordinary claims false, but of the person offering them to prove them true.

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 04:01 PM

There are 36,525 Pyramid inches in the perimeter of the Great Pyramid - the exact number of days in 100 years.
The measurement of a straight line of the base of the pyramid corner to corner converted to the Mean Tropical Year in days is exactly correct at 365.242.
The length of the sides of the triangle converted is 365.256 days - the exact length of the earth's solar revolution in days.
The length of the sides of the pyramid if it had a capstone converts to the exact orbital revolution of the earth in days - 365.259.
Half the length of the diagonal of the base x 10^6 reveals the distance of the earth from the sun.
The average height of earth's land mass above sea level is the exact height of the Great Pyramid.

The sea level is a constantly changing variable.

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 05:44 PM

Godspeed2012, you appear to be making claims with no basis in reality. To this claim

the height of the great pyramid x pi equals the average land height of earth ect ect....

I offered the following easily verifiable data

According to the wikipedia articles “Great Pyramid of Giza”, and “Earth”, the Great Pyramid is currently 138.8 m high, and is estimated to have been 146.6 m high when its construction was completed. 138.8 to 146.6 m times [math] pi[/math] is between 436 or 461 m, not very close to the mean height of land above sea level of 686 m.

To which you appear to reply

The average height of earth's land mass above sea level is the exact height of the Great Pyramid.

This is contradicted by the same data. 146.6 m is not 686 m.

Making completely unsupported claims such as these is not appropriate behavior in this forum, or in any of hypography’s forums.

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 09:22 PM

This site has all of the dimensions of the Giza Pyramids in Cubits.
(One Royal Egyptian Cubit = 20.620 inches = 0.52375 meters.)

Main Site lots of information,
Egyptology and the Giza Pyramids


The Plan of the Giza Pyramids
by John A.R. Legon
Giza Site Plan